follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum

Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-06-2018, 05:30 AM   #1
Riftur
Senior Member
 
Riftur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Location: Florida
Posts: 582
Thanks: 235
Thanked 176 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Switch from 93 to e85 easier

So it is really a pain for me to switch and I am trying to make it easier. Since there is only 1 station around me that has e85 and most of my driving is going to work and home. usually i drive as many time as possible back and forth to work. each day uses just under 1/4 a tank and then I have to drive around to just waste gas to get it a low as possible. So i was thinking of buying a siphoning pump and would like peoples opinions. DO you think the below pump would work well and is worth it? It will need a 5 gallon tank.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...LI6HNLMP&psc=1
Riftur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 08:03 AM   #2
jasonojordan
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 2013 satin white brz limited
Location: Cottage Grove MN
Posts: 1,049
Thanks: 162
Thanked 511 Times in 326 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Why not just buy an ethanol module like the one that delicious sells and the corresponding tune and be done with it?

Then you can run what ever gas (with in reason) that your happy ass wants to and not have to worry about trying to run it nearly empty and messing around with tune swaping.
jasonojordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 08:08 AM   #3
WNDSRFR
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Drives: FR-S,GTI
Location: Cocoa, Florida
Posts: 1,155
Thanks: 228
Thanked 823 Times in 419 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Before you spend your hard earned cash, I would try inserting a tube into the gas tank and see if it is possible.
I had a plan one time to fill up the tank on my Saturn and siphon it out to use during a hurricane for a generator.
But, alas, It was impossible to get the hose to the tank because of obstructions and bends etc. So I went without power until the gas stations got replenished.
WNDSRFR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 08:16 AM   #4
Riftur
Senior Member
 
Riftur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Location: Florida
Posts: 582
Thanks: 235
Thanked 176 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by WNDSRFR View Post
Before you spend your hard earned cash, I would try inserting a tube into the gas tank and see if it is possible.
I had a plan one time to fill up the tank on my Saturn and siphon it out to use during a hurricane for a generator.
But, alas, It was impossible to get the hose to the tank because of obstructions and bends etc. So I went without power until the gas stations got replenished.
Good idea, didnt even think about that.
Riftur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2018, 10:51 PM   #5
PetrolioBenzina
Senior Member
 
PetrolioBenzina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Drives: 17 86
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,671
Thanks: 75
Thanked 1,133 Times in 647 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
You are in FL, why not just run E85 all the time? Why bother switching unless you are going long distance?

Jeez, a tank week commuting, no thanks.
PetrolioBenzina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 06:56 AM   #6
Riftur
Senior Member
 
Riftur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Location: Florida
Posts: 582
Thanks: 235
Thanked 176 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by PetrolioBenzina View Post
You are in FL, why not just run E85 all the time? Why bother switching unless you are going long distance?

Jeez, a tank week commuting, no thanks.
I had to make the switch back for a few reason. The biggest one was the hurricane we had and not able to find e85 since there is only 2 stations in my area that sell it.
Riftur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2018, 06:48 PM   #7
Grady
Senior Member
 
Grady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Drives: BRZ Yellow, 2019 Ranger, 2011 Evora
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,685
Thanks: 352
Thanked 1,475 Times in 771 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonojordan View Post
Why not just buy an ethanol module like the one that delicious sells and the corresponding tune and be done with it?

Then you can run what ever gas (with in reason) that your happy ass wants to and not have to worry about trying to run it nearly empty and messing around with tune swaping.
Time is money, buy a flex fuel kit. Cheaper in the long run.
Grady is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Grady For This Useful Post:
Chimera (02-20-2018), FRSBRZGT86FAN (02-20-2018), Hades (02-21-2018)
Old 02-19-2018, 09:55 PM   #8
Harey
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Drives: 2013 Toyota 86
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 70
Thanks: 34
Thanked 23 Times in 16 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Flex fuel or fill up jerry cans when you fill up the tank.

Sucks that it is a pain in the butt to drain the fuel from this tank.
Harey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2018, 05:20 AM   #9
guybo
Huge E85 fan!
 
guybo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Drives: 2016 Scion FRS
Location: Tampa, FL, USA
Posts: 1,850
Thanks: 539
Thanked 1,010 Times in 605 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I love how people are always like " why not just drop the $1500 for the full flex fuel kit?" like we all have $1500 just sitting around. So what if you have to spend a few extra minutes to convert one way or the other, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than getting a flex fuel kit.
@Riftur how often do you switch back and forth?
guybo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2018, 06:57 AM   #10
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by guybo View Post
I love how people are always like " why not just drop the $1500 for the full flex fuel kit?" like we all have $1500 just sitting around. So what if you have to spend a few extra minutes to convert one way or the other, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than getting a flex fuel kit.
@Riftur how often do you switch back and forth?
They say it because it is the proper way to do it. Sure you can work around it by switching back and forth but since this thread exists at all there are obviously issues with that method. If $1500 is too much to do things the right way when your whole engine is at risk you probably shouldn't be doing it at all.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post:
Cole (02-20-2018), finch1750 (02-20-2018), Hades (02-21-2018), sodjer (02-20-2018)
Old 02-20-2018, 07:45 AM   #11
Riftur
Senior Member
 
Riftur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S
Location: Florida
Posts: 582
Thanks: 235
Thanked 176 Times in 111 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by guybo View Post
I love how people are always like " why not just drop the $1500 for the full flex fuel kit?" like we all have $1500 just sitting around. So what if you have to spend a few extra minutes to convert one way or the other, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than getting a flex fuel kit.
@Riftur how often do you switch back and forth?
Not very often at all. Thats why i have no need for the flex fuel kit. I use the OFT and it works great.
Riftur is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Riftur For This Useful Post:
guybo (02-20-2018), Tcoat (02-20-2018)
Old 02-20-2018, 08:06 AM   #12
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,432
Thanks: 26,115
Thanked 12,432 Times in 6,147 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
What's the mechanism that balances out the two lines in the tank? I know it's been discussed, but I don't remember whether it needed power in the pump or not. OP might want to take a look at that.
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2018, 08:07 AM   #13
Grady
Senior Member
 
Grady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Drives: BRZ Yellow, 2019 Ranger, 2011 Evora
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,685
Thanks: 352
Thanked 1,475 Times in 771 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Sometimes spending money up front is cheaper in the long run. You stated you drive around and waste gas just to switch over. How much does that cost you? Wear and tear, extra gas, TIME, and increasing you chances of an accident. Put a value on all that stuff and add it up over the life of the vehicle. If it comes up to more than $1500 then yes it will be better to get the kit, if not you are good.
Grady is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Grady For This Useful Post:
Cole (02-20-2018), Hades (02-21-2018), Tcoat (02-20-2018)
Old 02-20-2018, 11:19 AM   #14
Cole
Not a troll
 
Cole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Drives: FR-S
Location: Canada
Posts: 5,104
Thanks: 8,237
Thanked 5,399 Times in 2,694 Posts
Mentioned: 266 Post(s)
Tagged: 4 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by guybo View Post
I love how people are always like " why not just drop the $1500 for the full flex fuel kit?" like we all have $1500 just sitting around. So what if you have to spend a few extra minutes to convert one way or the other, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than getting a flex fuel kit.
@Riftur how often do you switch back and forth?
Uhm, no. It's not $1500. Maybe don't talk about things that you're clueless about?

Hell, options galore from reputable vendors

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grady View Post
Sometimes spending money up front is cheaper in the long run. You stated you drive around and waste gas just to switch over. How much does that cost you? Wear and tear, extra gas, TIME, and increasing you chances of an accident. Put a value on all that stuff and add it up over the life of the vehicle. If it comes up to more than $1500 then yes it will be better to get the kit, if not you are good.
It took me a long time to realize that time truly is money.

In this case, I'd certainly be ok with spending the money on a Flex Fuel kit, vs farting around every time I need/want to switch.
Cole is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Cole For This Useful Post:
finch1750 (02-20-2018), FRSBRZGT86FAN (02-20-2018), Tcoat (02-20-2018)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
FS: Unichip, USB cable, 2 tune selector switch, Clutch switch BII302 Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons 6 04-13-2015 07:06 PM
How to replace turn signals with switch backs and its relay switch. Scionshaun Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 1 05-30-2013 11:42 PM
Which is easier? FRS front or BRZ headlights? huma Cosmetic Modification (Interior/Exterior/Lighting) 26 06-23-2012 05:00 AM
i'm leaning toward BRZ but will it be easier to get a FR-S? stlgrym3 BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 28 03-30-2012 01:07 PM
Wouldn't it be easier... LexusFman Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 50 03-31-2011 11:55 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:56 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.