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Old 09-19-2021, 03:42 PM   #449
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I think an EV version of the 86 would be a great DD. You think they'd build a torque dip into it, just because?
They should kill off the line by then and introduce something else.lol. At that point I would mind a EV/Hybrid MR2 or Celica
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Old 09-19-2021, 04:06 PM   #450
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They should kill off the line by then and introduce something else.lol. At that point I would mind a EV/Hybrid MR2 or Celica
Why? The 86 has become the most successful nameplate for Toyota, easily besting Celica, Supra, MR2 sales. Would be dumb for them to drop the name if the industry ever went into an EV era..
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Old 09-19-2021, 04:15 PM   #451
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Why? The 86 has become the most successful nameplate for Toyota, easily besting Celica, Supra, MR2 sales. Would be dumb for them to drop the name if the industry ever went into an EV era..

Not even close. They made the Celica for over 30 years. MR2’s for over 20. OG 86’s we’re only built for like 4 years. Current gen “86” not even 10. Supra’s not even the same class of car. No compare.


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Why? The 86 has become the most successful nameplate for Toyota, easily besting Celica, Supra, MR2 sales. Would be dumb for them to drop the name if the industry ever went into an EV era..
I’m a Toyota fan, so as much as I love the platform I wouldn’t mind seeing another nameplate return. It was cool seeing them turn the AE86 chassis name into a full blown car, but I rather it stay the affordable, 4cyl, RWD coupe.
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I’d prefer a hybrid over an EV. An electric motor doesn’t pull to redline the way an internal combustion engine does. Electric motors have massive torque at a stand still and it drops pretty quickly when the speed goes up. In a properly tuned hybrid you can keep it feeling like a sports car in a way no EV can manage. Think like the NSX.
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Not even close. They made the Celica for over 30 years. MR2’s for over 20. OG 86’s we’re only built for like 4 years. Current gen “86” not even 10. Supra’s not even the same class of car. No compare.


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Yup, more recognizable names. The “86” name/heritage is recognizable but it was a chassis designation originally (and people get kind of confused on what it’s name was). Original car’s name was a Corolla GTS/Levin/Sprinter Trueno
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Given Akio Toyoda as the Toyota CEO, I'm sure he'll continue the affordable RWD sports car project. He doesn't seem to be the type that wants to make Toyota another boring car company given his decisions.
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Interesting perspective, not a bad read.

From the article.

“The old 2.0 sounded more like a sewing machine than most of its owners would admit, whereas the feel and noise that this new 2.4-litre produces is, weirdly, slightly more rotary-like.”

https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/...al-first-drive
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Interesting perspective, not a bad read.

From the article.

“The old 2.0 sounded more like a sewing machine than most of its owners would admit, whereas the feel and noise that this new 2.4-litre produces is, weirdly, slightly more rotary-like.”

https://www.whichcar.com.au/reviews/...al-first-drive
how can anyone tell with that fking fake noise maker in the car.

btw savageesee - is there a toggle to turn the stupid thing off in the vehicle settings?
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Old 09-19-2021, 10:10 PM   #458
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how can anyone tell with that fking fake noise maker in the car.

btw savageesee - is there a toggle to turn the stupid thing off in the vehicle settings?
There is not a way to toggle it off in any end user controls.
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Given Akio Toyoda as the Toyota CEO, I'm sure he'll continue the affordable RWD sports car project. He doesn't seem to be the type that wants to make Toyota another boring car company given his decisions.
this is the same company that spawned scion as a brand specifically to try new and innovative ideas, both in vehicles and selling them. only for it to blandify the vehicle lineup, and roll all of it back into the toyota brand...

toyota isn't well known for taking risks.
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how can anyone tell with that fking fake noise maker in the car.

btw savageesee - is there a toggle to turn the stupid thing off in the vehicle settings?
The user manual confirms it can be disabled through the dealer.
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how can anyone tell with that fking fake noise maker in the car.

btw savageesee - is there a toggle to turn the stupid thing off in the vehicle settings?
Sorry, full context from the article. I was probably thinking more interesting is “the feel” of the engine.

The old 2.0 sounded more like a sewing machine than most of its owners would admit, whereas the feel and noise that this new 2.4-litre produces is, weirdly, slightly more rotary-like. Though, part of this is due to having a speaker in the dash to help pump fake noise in via what Toyota calls Active Sound Control.
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Old 09-20-2021, 12:41 AM   #462
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That's the thing though. People have been doing it for decades. It's a form of fun and excitement. I don't get nor agree with the logic of, 'if you want something faster, you should buy a whole new car' as I find that asinine. It's a similar logic to building a computer or adding onto your house; get a bigger house from the start or get a better computer from the start.
Of course it is a form of fun and excitement. If you want to build something personal and burn your money it is fine. However, if you want the best performance and results in relation to competition it is easier to start with a factory FI engine. No matter how much force the rods can handle, it is still a high compression engine.
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