Innovate/Spritex/Bullet... What I found searching the web.

[Draco-REX]

Originally Posted by Got3n

who is selling them in the US!!?!?!?

Aussies got them first.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by jamesm

I'm pretty sure that ecutek's additional encryption breaks the normal pass-thru flashing that brzedit relies on. This is at least true with wrxs and such, where you have to have an ecutek vendor 'unlock' your ecu before you can pull or flash non-ecutek maps to the ecu with ecuflash.

Thats not the way i understand it... how would it work if you needed to take your car in for service... you would flash the stock rom (provided by ecutek) back into the car and the dealer would be able to flash over it.

If the dealer can flash over it, i can flash over it.

This worked when i was an ecutek tuner for evo x back in the day. Many of the customers i tuned on ecutek converted to ecuflash. I transferred my tunes manually to ecuflash then flashed right over the ecutek mapped ecu's with ecuflash. Granted that may have changed, but i just don't see them preventing you from over writing the ecu. Reading the ecutek tune is another case entirely and not something i have any interest in doing.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Thats not the way i understand it... how would it work if you needed to take your car in for service... you would flash the stock rom (provided by ecutek) back into the car and the dealer would be able to flash over it.

If the dealer can flash over it, i can flash over it.

This worked when i was an ecutek tuner for evo x back in the day. Many of the customers i tuned on ecutek converted to ecuflash. I transferred my tunes manually to ecuflash then flashed right over the ecutek mapped ecu's with ecuflash. Granted that may have changed, but i just don't see them preventing you from over writing the ecu. Reading the ecutek tune is another case entirely and not something i have any interest in doing.

that very well could be, i'm not sure. here is what i read that suggested that: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1027462

[pheoxs]

Originally Posted by mad_sb

Thats not the way i understand it... how would it work if you needed to take your car in for service... you would flash the stock rom (provided by ecutek) back into the car and the dealer would be able to flash over it.

If the dealer can flash over it, i can flash over it.

This worked when i was an ecutek tuner for evo x back in the day. Many of the customers i tuned on ecutek converted to ecuflash. I transferred my tunes manually to ecuflash then flashed right over the ecutek mapped ecu's with ecuflash. Granted that may have changed, but i just don't see them preventing you from over writing the ecu. Reading the ecutek tune is another case entirely and not something i have any interest in doing.

I can't remember the thread but someone said the dealer tried to do an updated flash while he had his ecutek flash still on and it bricked his ecu. I can't find which build thread it was though so I can't remember exactly the details

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[xwd]

Originally Posted by jamesm

that very well could be, i'm not sure. here is what i read that suggested that: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1027462

That was the old WRX Ecutek reflash. There was no way to remove it once it was on the ECU, it made many people very angry when they couldn't flash to something else later on like Cobb. The BRZ ones can be reflashed back to a stock map.

Looking forward to seeing some good numbers out of the kit, I have my eye on the intercooled version a couple years down the line.

[jamesm]

Originally Posted by dwx

That was the old WRX Ecutek reflash. There was no way to remove it once it was on the ECU, it made many people very angry when they couldn't flash to something else later on like Cobb. The BRZ ones can be reflashed back to a stock map.

Looking forward to seeing some good numbers out of the kit, I have my eye on the intercooled version a couple years down the line.

that's good to know. my only prior experience with it was on my bug-eye wrx

[mines13]

I just thought these were pretty. Carry on.

[sw20kosh]

@mines13 Do you by chance have a close up of the bypass area?

And are there boost nipples (below the blower) to which we can hook up a boost gauge etc?

[mines13]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

@mines13 Do you by chance have a close up of the bypass area?

And are there boost nipples (below the blower) to which we can hook up a boost gauge etc?

This is an excellent rear shot. There will be more...

[whataboutbob]

So looking forward to seeing this kit in person some day. Nice photos.

[mad_sb]

Originally Posted by jamesm

that very well could be, i'm not sure. here is what i read that suggested that: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1027462

Originally Posted by pheoxs

I can't remember the thread but someone said the dealer tried to do an updated flash while he had his ecutek flash still on and it bricked his ecu. I can't find which build thread it was though so I can't remember exactly the details

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Thanks for the info guys. I think the key is flashing back the "stock" rom provided by ecutek before you try and flash with another tool.

I'll do some more reasearch

Originally Posted by Foobar

My understanding is that once you have ECUTek on your car, the dealer is locked out from writing to it (even if you go back to the stock flash, which technically acts like stock but still has a lock I think). The only way they can perform the recall is to replace your ECU. At that point, you'll need to get in touch with your tuner who sold you the ECUTek license, show proof that the dealer gave you a new ECU, and get a new license generated for the new ECU.

Originally Posted by xjohnx

pretty sure that's false.

Originally Posted by Yruyur

You are correct that he is false

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Originally Posted by Foobar

Which part is false? The locking of the ECU or the having to replace the ECUTek license on ECU swap?

Originally Posted by xjohnx

locking of the ECU.

So yeah, I think I'll be fine. I know it has been an issue in a few cases in the past with other cars but i don't think they would intentionally lock anyone out of the ecu these days. The rom will be encrypted and unusable, but that does not prevent you from flashing over it.

Sorry for the semi off topic, but this was all in relation to tuning options for the twin's twin-screw

[Accurate Race Shop]

I have been looking at possibly running E85 with water meth on the Innovate kit. Not right away but after the newness of the kit has passed and I want to do a little upgrading. I am already getting my FI preparation mods Oil cooler, Radiator, Breaks so it will definitely feel like a whole new car even with the pump gas kit but I think once the newness wears off I'll start upgrading my fuel to see how much I can get without going for a 70mm pulley. Anyone else making any plans similar to this or is everyone looking to inter cool it and possibly just run a smaller pulley for more power once the newness wears off for them?

[zuldajin]

I'll just leave these here...

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by zuldajin

I'll just leave these here...

To bad it's not as fast as the car behind it