Saw a '17- like the '16 better!

[qqzj]

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

Probably because everyone was complaining about how "slow" the BRZ is, so they decided to make it faster this way.

Probably. For guys who race the car stock, I can see some benefit. But for those who don't, and I suspect that is the majority, this is a backward step. The one thing I really do not like is how short the first and second gears are on my 13. With an even shorter differential gear, I can see somebody shifting like crazy between 1-2-3 in heavy traffic. Oh well ... Just need to find a wrecked 17 PP and strip away all the good stuff.

[artongdou]

Hill assist on this car is CRAP man.. It activates even on flat surface. So don't count on that.

Originally Posted by Jen

I finally found a dealer with a new 2017 BRZ. The dealer was closed, but the car was on the lot.

1) what is with the thick black plastic on the grill?
2) I miss the old wheels
3) I like the old spoiler

But,

4) the new manual has hill assist.

Man, I'm conflicted.

[Chaetagnath]

Saw my first 17 BRZ on the road today, and I have to say I thought it looked really good. The headlights especially are nice.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by qqzj

Probably. For guys who race the car stock, I can see some benefit. But for those who don't, and I suspect that is the majority, this is a backward step. The one thing I really do not like is how short the first and second gears are on my 13. With an even shorter differential gear, I can see somebody shifting like crazy between 1-2-3 in heavy traffic. Oh well ... Just need to find a wrecked 17 PP and strip away all the good stuff.

If you're seriously going to complain about being quicker by shifting too much and traffic.... The only place the differential gear change wouldn't be better is maybe gas mileage (doesn't seem an issue) or possibly with FI.


It is a forward step from the factory for sure.

[mnuttall]

Originally Posted by artongdou

Hill assist on this car is CRAP man.. It activates even on flat surface. So don't count on that.

If that's the case with your car, deactivate it, and re-activate it making sure you're on flat ground when you do.

[Xxyion]

Originally Posted by artongdou

Hill assist on this car is CRAP man.. It activates even on flat surface. So don't count on that.

But how could you tell...you are on a flat surface so you wouldnt be getting rollback anyways...

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Xxyion

But how could you tell...you are on a flat surface so you wouldnt be getting rollback anyways...

He should be able to tell as it needs more gas than normal to disengage the hill hold assist like how Tom Vu takes off in his NSX.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-01BI9L3aGs"]Tom Vu drives an Acura NSX - YouTube[/ame]

[StraightOuttaCanadaEh]

Hill assist activates on flat surface? This has never happened to me. In fact, it takes only the steepest hills to activate.

[Scrappydoo]

Originally Posted by Jen

There are a lot of '16's left around here.

I need to decide what I'm doing. I bought a new vette close to a month ago, seven speed manual. We also have a manual Challenger and WRX. I commute 2.5 hrs to go sixty miles on the way home from work. This may need to be an automatic anyway. Ugh.

My daily driver is a Prius with 422k (!) miles on it. When it goes, I need another daily driver.

I smell bullshit....

[artongdou]

Exactly..

Originally Posted by krayzie

He should be able to tell as it needs more gas than normal to disengage the hill hold assist like how Tom Vu takes off in his NSX.

[artongdou]

Interesting. I activated in my garage. There is slight hill but shouldn't be extreme. Might worth take another shot sometime on flat surface..

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanadaEh

Hill assist activates on flat surface? This has never happened to me. In fact, it takes only the steepest hills to activate.