DIY Visconti Flex Fuel kit for E85 - Page 16 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

post_break · 08-11-2013, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sensisnow

I just got back from a 4 hour road trip and I'm happy to say that I didn't have any leaking issues that I know of. I smelled a whiff of e85 a few times, but I didn't see any visual indication of leaking and my car didn't burst into flames, which is always a plus. I'm still using the single thumb clamp that I purchased to replace the clamp that John provided, which was absolute garbage. I think I posted a photo of it, along with a link earlier in this thread.

Have you heard any more from @Visconti regarding the installation instructions? According to his post above, we all should have received an instructions days ago, but he seems to have disappeared. I figured you would be the first person to receive anything, which is why I'm asking.

I assume you're referring to me? I haven't heard anything from John.

Sensisnow · 08-11-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by post_break

I assume you're referring to me? I haven't heard anything from John.

Yeah, sorry about that. I edited my previous post to make that clear for anyone else following this thread.

chilltpr · 08-11-2013, 07:14 PM

Ok I got the update parts on.
Taking off the black heat shield thing made the hose work a lot easier.
As for the sensor, there are 2 holes that matched up perfectly so I threw it there in the pic. I am guessing this is where they intended it to go. The screws worked perfectly.
Was easy enough and no leaks.

Yruyur · 08-11-2013, 07:23 PM

Did you cut the hardline?

Sent from a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X

mikalem · 08-11-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Yruyur

Did you cut the hardline?

Sent from a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X

Matrix flashback.....

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Sensisnow · 08-11-2013, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilltpr

Ok I got the update parts on.
Taking off the black heat shield thing made the hose work a lot easier.
As for the sensor, there are 2 holes that matched up perfectly so I threw it there in the pic. I am guessing this is where they intended it to go. The screws worked perfectly.
Was easy enough and no leaks.

Thanks for the info!

What size bolt did you use to mount the sensor? I didn't receive one with my kit.

chilltpr · 08-11-2013, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yruyur

Did you cut the hardline?

Sent from a Motorola DynaTAC 8000X

Yes just below that flange/flare thing. Had to use a file to debur a little so the compression fitting slipped on. Get that bottom piece with the compression ring on first line it up by eye and put the fitting that goes on top with a socket. Compression fittings are 17mm so box wrench on bottom with a 17mm deep socket on top. Then repeat with the 3/4 adapter on top of that.

chilltpr · 08-11-2013, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sensisnow

Thanks for the info!

What size bolt did you use to mount the sensor? I didn't receive one with my kit.

It was a self tapping screw. Sorry didnt measure the size. My kit came with it.

Sensisnow · 08-11-2013, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilltpr

Yes just below that flange/flare thing. Had to use a file to debur a little so the compression fitting slipped on. Get that bottom piece with the compression ring on first line it up by eye and put the fitting that goes on top with a socket. Compression fittings are 17mm so box wrench on bottom with a 17mm deep socket on top. Then repeat with the 3/4 adapter on top of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilltpr

It was a self tapping screw. Sorry didnt measure the size. My kit came with it.

No bolt included with my kit.

No padding in my kit.

No responses from @Visconti or @Rich@ViscontiTuning

Now we learn from someone who has 6 posts that we have to cut the metal line, preventing any option of taking our car back to stock, therefore ruining any chance of having any warranty work done. WOW!

chilltpr · 08-11-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sensisnow

No bolt included with my kit.

No padding in my kit.

No responses from @Visconti or @Rich@ViscontiTuning

Now we learn from someone who has 6 posts that we have to cut the metal line, preventing any option of taking our car back to stock, therefore ruining any chance of having any warranty work done. WOW!

Well if you need to take it to the dealer just use one hose and bypass the sensor. If they dont like that you can always get a flaring tool and use the stock hose assuming you didnt cut it up. I was able to get it off without slicing it.

enouf · 08-11-2013, 09:17 PM

I've been hunting down a proper hose and little wonder John/Rich went with the kit's hose (i.e. took the easy route). The required hose (7.5mm ID/13.5 OD) is FACKING hard to find (here in Aus anyway). Especially one that is compatible with E85. I found one with correct dimension by Codan but the inner tube material (NBR/PVC) isn't E85 compatible. To think, they got all this leaking issues just because they were 1mm off (kit hose is 8.5mm).

Final solution for me will have to be ghetto setup with two bits of OEM pre-bent hoses. Not going to look pretty but definitely wont be any leaks.

Also one of the threaded connections near the sensor has a very tiny leak when engine is running. Thankfully I can swap it out with the coupler I couldn't use. Yet another headache to deal with. Good thing they aren't replying - I'd friggin chew their heads off at this point.

cobrabyte · 08-12-2013, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sensisnow

No bolt included with my kit.

No padding in my kit.

No responses from @Visconti or @Rich@ViscontiTuning

Now we learn from someone who has 6 posts that we have to cut the metal line, preventing any option of taking our car back to stock, therefore ruining any chance of having any warranty work done. WOW!

It's fairly simple to re-add the bubble flare back to that hard line.

I am probably going to go a different route rather than using the compression sleeve that John sent out. It will involve cutting that bubble flare off, adding a fitting, re-flare and then assemble permanent fitting. You can 'borrow' a flare tool set from most auto parts stores, since it's something that's used so rarely.

I need to take the measurements on the hardline to find out what size fittings to get but I'm looking to get this done soon and for good.

I've not had any leaks with the clamped version but I'd rather have the peace of mind.

mkivsoopra · 08-12-2013, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrabyte

It's fairly simple to re-add the bubble flare back to that hard line.

I am probably going to go a different route rather than using the compression sleeve that John sent out. It will involve cutting that bubble flare off, adding a fitting, re-flare and then assemble permanent fitting. You can 'borrow' a flare tool set from most auto parts stores, since it's something that's used so rarely.

I need to take the measurements on the hardline to find out what size fittings to get but I'm looking to get this done soon and for good.

I've not had any leaks with the clamped version but I'd rather have the peace of mind.

Going with a proper 37° AN fitting? That would be the most ideal...

cobrabyte · 08-13-2013, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkivsoopra

Going with a proper 37° AN fitting? That would be the most ideal...

Yeah, that's the plan. I just don't want to have to mess with it again in the future.

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08-11-2013, 07:14 PM	#213
chilltpr HPDE Instructor Join Date: May 2013 Drives: FR-S Location: MidWest Posts: 17 Thanks: 9 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok I got the update parts on. Taking off the black heat shield thing made the hose work a lot easier. As for the sensor, there are 2 holes that matched up perfectly so I threw it there in the pic. I am guessing this is where they intended it to go. The screws worked perfectly. Was easy enough and no leaks.

08-11-2013, 09:17 PM	#221
enouf Mr. Grumpy Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 86 GT, Fuji Red, MT Location: Melbourne Posts: 242 Thanks: 360 Thanked 205 Times in 92 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've been hunting down a proper hose and little wonder John/Rich went with the kit's hose (i.e. took the easy route). The required hose (7.5mm ID/13.5 OD) is FACKING hard to find (here in Aus anyway). Especially one that is compatible with E85. I found one with correct dimension by Codan but the inner tube material (NBR/PVC) isn't E85 compatible. To think, they got all this leaking issues just because they were 1mm off (kit hose is 8.5mm). Final solution for me will have to be ghetto setup with two bits of OEM pre-bent hoses. Not going to look pretty but definitely wont be any leaks. Also one of the threaded connections near the sensor has a very tiny leak when engine is running. Thankfully I can swap it out with the coupler I couldn't use. Yet another headache to deal with. Good thing they aren't replying - I'd friggin chew their heads off at this point.

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