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Old 04-10-2021, 11:57 AM   #29
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I haven't been participating in this forum much in recent history... for no real underlying reason, just haven't. Came back and had the misfortune to stumble into this and the other linked thread.

The most disturbing and upsetting part of the whole thing is the inability of those with one set of opinions on the issue to be able to interact civilly and respectfully with those who have a differing set of opinions. The "if you don't agree with me, you are stupid, uninformed, and a total @#$#-for-brains @$$hole" attitude is disgusting, regardless of from whence it emanates.

Read this thread... read as much of the other thread as you can, objectively, without vomiting. Make a dispassionate, objective assessment as to which side expresses themselves with the most hostility and least amount of kindness.

Speaking as an American... my concerns are not whether or not masks are effective, whether or not the vaccine is a smart thing to do... my concern is just how much are we going to allow the government to control and mandate in our lives. The opinions of people in other countries about THAT are of little value to me, because those people have chosen to live in and be citizens of other countries. Our country was founded upon principals of individual freedoms to live as free as possible from restrictive government policies. If that is not attractive to some people, that is fine. There are other countries that exist and that have existed for a very long time that place less value on personal freedoms. America, at least up until recently, has been an experiment in a different type of land.

I wear a mask in public out of respect for the wishes of others, and would continue to do so without government mandates. It's the MANDATE that bothers me. You can't argue that the government should force YOUR wishes that everyone wear masks upon others because you feel it is the right thing to do, while at the same time arguing that those who question the exaggerated portrayal of the effectiveness of masks should NOT be allowed to force THEIR wishes on others. This is America. Give us data, give us guidelines, give us suggestions, give us options... and then trust that individuals will make good decisions, and that families, communities, and other micro- and small societal subsets will take care of bringing those who engage in unsafe practices along. Massive government mandates are the issue... and not agreeing with them is not a sign of being uninformed, stupid, or an @$$hole. It is the sign of simply not agreeing with everything you say. That is all. You need to respect that... whoever you are.
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Old 04-10-2021, 01:58 PM   #30
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Wow. Thread still active.
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Wow. Thread still active.
Even personal attacks in the shitshow thread didn't get it shut down. Why would this be closed? This is all probably because I'm black anyway.
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:21 PM   #36
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I like a good debate but I don't even go and read that one.
It scares me how some normally smart people can show just how dumb they can be on the subject.
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Even personal attacks in the shitshow thread didn't get it shut down. Why would this be closed? This is all probably because I'm black anyway.
Wut. How would anyone remotely know your race? O_o
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I don't know I don't go there even to just lurk.
There are dumb ones on both the extremes though.
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I haven't been participating in this forum much in recent history... for no real underlying reason, just haven't. Came back and had the misfortune to stumble into this and the other linked thread.

The most disturbing and upsetting part of the whole thing is the inability of those with one set of opinions on the issue to be able to interact civilly and respectfully with those who have a differing set of opinions. The "if you don't agree with me, you are stupid, uninformed, and a total @#$#-for-brains @$$hole" attitude is disgusting, regardless of from whence it emanates.

Read this thread... read as much of the other thread as you can, objectively, without vomiting. Make a dispassionate, objective assessment as to which side expresses themselves with the most hostility and least amount of kindness.

You are likely missing a lot of the removed posts.
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There's a black mirror episode about that lol.
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There's a black mirror episode about that lol.
So I've heard. I'm waiting to get bored with hulu before I get netflix
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