Lane splitting?

[tyrantcf]

Originally Posted by iamjacob

Most people are just jealous they have to sit in traffic and bikes don't.

I hear all the time: "motorcycles should have to wait like everyone else!"

[themadscientist]

Scooters do it so prolifically here that it would appear there is no law against it. I tend to put the passenger side close to the next car to block that side and swing my hand lazily, but menacingly out the driver's side window so they usually shift to the next row over. I'm not trying to make a statement. I just don't want my car gouged up or my mirror taken off by these little punk asshats on their wind up bikes ripping down between cars at any speed slower than the speed limit.

As far as less aggressive lane splitters like people slowly working up to the front at a light, it's fine with me as long as they haul ass when the light goes green. Don't cut in front of me then putt along.

Bikers get rained on and crashed into, it balances out.

[echo419]

I look at allowing lane splitting the same way I look at allowing people to ride without a helmet. if you're dumb enough to do it society will soon be cured of your ignorance.

[FX86]

Originally Posted by tyrantcf

Good for you. But it isn't illegal for people in California. All types of bikes with all types of riders split lanes and it works fine here 99% of the time.

funny thing is people in california still get pissed off when riders lane split..either most of you californians don't know about the law in your state or most of californians are douchebags because i've seen enough videos based in california where someone opens a door for no reason in stop and go traffic to cut off a lane splitter.... or someone moves their car over half a foot to make the bike swerve hitting another vehicle while lane splitting

[mdm]

Originally Posted by tyrantcf

Good for you. But it isn't illegal for people in California. All types of bikes with all types of riders split lanes and it works fine here 99% of the time.

Meaning, an average biker who splits lanes once a day survives about three months, right?

[iamjacob]

Originally Posted by echo419

I look at allowing lane splitting the same way I look at allowing people to ride without a helmet. if you're dumb enough to do it society will soon be cured of your ignorance.

You're completely free to look at it that way, you'd just be wrong. I get the feeling that you don't ride and I'm also guessing you're just regurgitating drivel that you've heard somewhere else. Whether you believe it or not there have been several studies that have shown that splitting traffic is not only safer than sitting in traffic but it also eases traffic congestion. But please continue to wish death upon random strangers.

Originally Posted by mdm

Meaning, an average biker who splits lanes once a day survives about three months, right?

His statement should have probably been that it works out 99.999% of the time.

[echo419]

Originally Posted by iamjacob

You're completely free to look at it that way, you'd just be wrong. I get the feeling that you don't ride and I'm also guessing you're just regurgitating drivel that you've heard somewhere else. Whether you believe it or not there have been several studies that have shown that splitting traffic is not only safer than sitting in traffic but it also eases traffic congestion. But please continue to wish death upon random strangers...

welp your feeling would be wrong.

2000 Honda VFR


would like to see these studies. all it takes is some dumb ass to drift over a little while looking at their phone to kill or seriously injury you for life.

regardless though. riding without a helmet is flat out stupid and there's no other way to look at it. basically it's like smoking. people do it to look cool but it's nothing but a good way to get killed.

[iamjacob]

My apologies, I was wrong.

While I completely agree with you that riding without a helmet is super sketchy, I think the same goes for armored gloves, jackets, boots and pants (most motorcycle injuries are to the lower body). However safety is a personal choice and many individuals are very bad at risk assessment and quality riding gear is expensive.

On the study side of things...

Newest data...
http://www.ots.ca.gov/pdf/Publicatio...afety-2015.pdf

Old data...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurt_Report

Lots of data...
http://lanesplittingislegal.com/resources-links

[themadscientist]

Sure quality gear is expensive, but weigh it against a possibly avoidable hospital bill and it starts to look like a real bargain. I ride with all the gear, but I could give two shits if other people do; it's your ass, mess yourself up if you want.

[echo419]

Originally Posted by themadscientist

Sure quality gear is expensive, but weigh it against a possibly avoidable hospital bill and it starts to look like a real bargain. I ride with all the gear, but I could give two shits if other people do; it's your ass, mess yourself up if you want.

indeed. that's why I'll never ride in shorts and a t-shirt. dress for the fall not the ride. no sense in turning a tiny accident into a big deal by ripping a big patch of skin off your body that otherwise would have been no big deal.

[echo419]

I should add that I think where this splitting is done is a major factor. a lot of the studies seem to get the majority(if not all) their data from Cali. I've never driven there so I can't speak to what drivers are like out there.

what I can say is that in Ga for example if someone saw you lane splitting(assuming it was legal) the probability of them crossing lanes just for the sake of spotting you from getting ahead of them is high if not a certainty. folks here are major jerks on the road. they will speed up as soon as you turn on a signal(car or bike). seriously, I'll see the car dip down from the driver hitting the accelerator hard. I could go on all day with examples of how people here will do things just so you don't get ahead of them.

worse is Florida. those people just don't care. they go where they want when they want others around them be damned.

I blame all the transplants in GA. almost no one here is actually from here. then the blue hairs in FL that just don't care, know their time is coming and want to take someone with them.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by echo419

I should add that I think where this splitting is done is a major factor. a lot of the studies seem to get the majority(if not all) their data from Cali. I've never driven there so I can't speak to what drivers are like out there.

If its in the US that would most likely be the case since its the only place in the US where lane splitting is legal.

Originally Posted by echo419

what I can say is that in Ga for example if someone saw you lane splitting(assuming it was legal) the probability of them crossing lanes just for the sake of spotting you from getting ahead of them is high if not a certainty. folks here are major jerks on the road. they will speed up as soon as you turn on a signal(car or bike). seriously, I'll see the car dip down from the driver hitting the accelerator hard. I could go on all day with examples of how people here will do things just so you don't get ahead of them.

I can second all that. I think I get more confused and shocked looks from drivers when I let them in, or make some other "counter intuitive" move.

[iamjacob]

Originally Posted by themadscientist

Sure quality gear is expensive, but weigh it against a possibly avoidable hospital bill and it starts to look like a real bargain. I ride with all the gear, but I could give two shits if other people do; it's your ass, mess yourself up if you want.

Originally Posted by echo419

indeed. that's why I'll never ride in shorts and a t-shirt. dress for the fall not the ride. no sense in turning a tiny accident into a big deal by ripping a big patch of skin off your body that otherwise would have been no big deal.

You're preaching to the choir. I have more $$$ in gear than my current bike cost me. I was just saying why some people don't.

Skin grafts are painful and expensive from what I hear.

[FX86]

Originally Posted by iamjacob

You're preaching to the choir. I have more $$$ in gear than my current bike cost me. I was just saying why some people don't.

Skin grafts are painful and expensive from what I hear.

better sweat than bleed...that always shuts up the idiots that ask why are you wearing all that gear when it's so hot outside..and i give them the look like, b!tch do i look like i'm riding a bicycle..why would you ask such a moronic question?