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Old 06-17-2019, 12:00 PM   #4985
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I'm coming up on the 2 year mark for changing the rotrex fluid on my JRSC. What's everyone's preferred method for changing the fluid in the system?
I just did it. It's actually really easy.

0. Find a 1L bottle and a friend/helper
1. Change inline filter
2. remove top hose from fluid reservoir and insert into bottle
3. Remove reservoir cap and insert funnel (my oil came with a cardboard funnel that was sized exactly right)
4. Have person turn car on and rev to 2-3k rpm
5. Let 1L of oil run out while constantly refilling reservoir with new oil (I had one hand holding the bottle with old fluid and the other hand pouring a continuous stream of new oil in)
6. Car off, hose connected back to reservoir, cap on
7. Turn car back on and check fluid level at 2-3k rpm per rotrex manual
8. Realize it was actually really easy and you shouldn't stress so much about things but that year off your life is already gone so have a beer
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Old 06-17-2019, 03:21 PM   #4986
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I just did it. It's actually really easy.

0. Find a 1L bottle and a friend/helper
1. Change inline filter
2. remove top hose from fluid reservoir and insert into bottle
3. Remove reservoir cap and insert funnel (my oil came with a cardboard funnel that was sized exactly right)
4. Have person turn car on and rev to 2-3k rpm
5. Let 1L of oil run out while constantly refilling reservoir with new oil (I had one hand holding the bottle with old fluid and the other hand pouring a continuous stream of new oil in)
6. Car off, hose connected back to reservoir, cap on
7. Turn car back on and check fluid level at 2-3k rpm per rotrex manual
8. Realize it was actually really easy and you shouldn't stress so much about things but that year off your life is already gone so have a beer
Wow thank you for the very detailed instructions! I actually was stressing about doing this but this makes me feel confident doing the process now. Just ordered the filter and fluid.
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Old 06-19-2019, 11:06 PM   #4987
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how to clean jackson racing c30 air filter

whats everyones favorite method? besides just replacing it. new ones are 45$ i dont see why you wouldn't get a new one every spring, despite the manufactures specs to change every 2 yrs or 50k mi. i err on the side of not being a cheap lazy bugger.
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whats everyones favorite method? besides just replacing it. new ones are 45$ i dont see why you wouldn't get a new one every spring, despite the manufactures specs to change every 2 yrs or 50k mi. i err on the side of not being a cheap lazy bugger.
If you want to replace your washable, reusable filter every year, no one is stopping you.

2 years is only the oil and oil filter, which are not resuable.
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If you want to replace your washable, reusable filter every year, no one is stopping you.

2 years is only the oil and oil filter, which are not resuable.
awesome, one more wear item (oil filter) to replace to keep it sucking strong and healthy, my question remains however. favorite method for cleaning the air filter? i think its cotton? so im hesitant to blast the hell out of it w an air fitting and rip the cotton. anyone get a special "sock" to put over it to keep it clean too?
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I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death, but is the ACE header worth the additional cost? I know its all about the curve, but how much more whp/tq can I expect for just adding the header on top of the supercharger?
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awesome, one more wear item (oil filter) to replace to keep it sucking strong and healthy, my question remains however. favorite method for cleaning the air filter? i think its cotton? so im hesitant to blast the hell out of it w an air fitting and rip the cotton. anyone get a special "sock" to put over it to keep it clean too?
I've always used the k&n filter cleaner and oil kit. Just follow the directions from the kit and it gets the filter like new. The pre filter sock isn't necessary due to the filter being protected and dry inside the engine bay. Also hitting the filter with compressed air won't hurt anything just don't overkill it.
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I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death, but is the ACE header worth the additional cost? I know its all about the curve, but how much more whp/tq can I expect for just adding the header on top of the supercharger?
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How to change Rotrex oil filter

i just got my supercharger maintenance care package from CSG in the mail!
jrsc 3in air filter
jrsc magnetic oil filter
cabin air filter
ecolite 0w20 engine oil
jdm subie engine oil filter and crush washer(amazon)
(traction fluid was changed two months ago along with new pullies and serp belt) this'll be my first time doing the filter change on the c30 so i wanted to come correct.

i found this for how to change the oil filter because i actually search things before posting questions that are probably already answered:
https://rotrex.com/wp-content/upload...aflet-V5.5.pdf PAGE 11

"To avoid traction oil spilling into the engine compartment, use a hose clamp pliers to clamp the oil hose as close to the oil filter as possible on the oil canister side (filter inlet)
Slide away the two hose clamps on the oil filter and remove the oil filter
Mount the new oil filter. Make sure to mount the filter in the correct direction according to the arrows on the filter indicating the correct oil flow direction. Slide the two oil hose clamps back to the correct position
Remove the hose clamp pliers"

my initial question was if its literally as simply as taking the old one off, and putting the new one on. i was wondering if you had to put some traction fluid in the new filter before hooking it up, "priming it" etc. but i guess its litarally as simply as it sounds. MAINTAIN YOUR SNAILS FRIENDS! any tips and tricks to share?
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Has anyone experienced occasional hiccups/hesitations under light throttle around 3k? The car sort of momentarily bucks and then carries on as expected.

I only have a base map from Delicious right now, but it's a little unsettling when it happens. Waiting to hear back from them with revisions, but was curious if any owners here have experienced the same thing.
I have experienced something similar, but typically it is most noticeable around 2100 to 2500 rpm. I have the CARB tune with all else being stock. I have not been super thrilled with the light throttle performance of the car with the SC and CARB tune. Have had to relearn how to drive the car a bit as a result. At some point I'm going to pressure test my recirculation valve to try and determine if it is perhaps having issues transitioning from off-throttle to low throttle.
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I have experienced something similar, but typically it is most noticeable around 2100 to 2500 rpm. I have the CARB tune with all else being stock. I have not been super thrilled with the light throttle performance of the car with the SC and CARB tune. Have had to relearn how to drive the car a bit as a result. At some point I'm going to pressure test my recirculation valve to try and determine if it is perhaps having issues transitioning from off-throttle to low throttle.
Stock recirculation valve is very soft. It opens early and closes late giving a sluggish throttle response. But, and this is important, it protects the compressor from surge. I have replaced my recirculation valve with an adjustable one (RKX from Amazon) and currently using it with the middle strength spring which opens later and closes earlier than the stock valve. This noticeably improved the throttle response. MAF reading and whistle sound shows that it still opens at idle. I can also confirm that when I release the throttle at high rpm valve opens again. I have just replaced my traction fluid after a little more than 2 years and 25K miles now, compressor is still safe and sound. Just my experience though.
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I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death, but is the ACE header worth the additional cost? I know its all about the curve, but how much more whp/tq can I expect for just adding the header on top of the supercharger?
I made 307/224 on a C30 running e70 with the PTuning Race Header and the JDL UQFP (catted and resonated) on a 90 degree day on PTuning’s Dyno Dynamics Dyno. For reference, I made 195/155 on that same dyno as NA with the JDL Catted Header and JDL UQFP. I can’t see you making THAT much more running the ACE A350. I also previously made 315/230 when running the C30 with a gutted cat JDL UEL and a JDL catless/resonated front pipe on e70 on a 40 degree day.

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I just did it. It's actually really easy.

0. Find a 1L bottle and a friend/helper
1. Change inline filter
2. remove top hose from fluid reservoir and insert into bottle
3. Remove reservoir cap and insert funnel (my oil came with a cardboard funnel that was sized exactly right)
4. Have person turn car on and rev to 2-3k rpm
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6. Car off, hose connected back to reservoir, cap on
7. Turn car back on and check fluid level at 2-3k rpm per rotrex manual
8. Realize it was actually really easy and you shouldn't stress so much about things but that year off your life is already gone so have a beer
Thank you for the step-by-step instructions. This looks like the recommended method in the Rotrex manual. I just did my first fluid change last week. It was very easy. There was some sludge in the filter. I am glad I changed the filter as well. Did you notice some dark accumulation in the filter when you changed the fluid?
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Did anybody replace one or both of the cats after using with supercharger? I am wondering if the cats wear out earlier than stock engine.

Edit: I ordered a 2019 stock header (2017+ design), new oxygen sensors, and a dual resonator HKS front pipe. I will install and try with CARB tune first. Any problems, I will switch to Delicious tune with a new MAP sensor upgrade. I will post here how it goes.

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