Remote Workers Going Back To Office??

[gtpvette]

My company is bringing everyone back. In mid-May 30% (5 days every 3 weeks), by Mid-June 50% (5 days every 2 weeks). by Mid-July 80% (4 days a week) and 100% by Mid-August. They also have a vaccine self reporting program, originally paid $100 when you provided proof. Looks like over 40% haven't reported as of yet and CEO doesn't appear to be too happy. Company has upped the incentive to $1000. They're also going to make twice a week testing mandatory for those that haven't vaxed yet. He says he hasn't decided if he'll require the vaccine or not yet. It promises to be interesting.

You going back??

[Transport3r]

Can the work be done remotely? If so going back to 100% on site is just stupid. Waste of time and resources.

My company is looking into a hybrid setup where people come in 2-3 days a week and WFH 2-3 days a week. Seems like a nice balance to me. I like working from home, but certain things are easier in the office/shop.

Edit: as far as vaccines are concerned, you can encourage people to volunteer their vaccination records, but requiring a vaccine is a HIPAA minefield.

[soundman98]

middle management has nothing to do if no one comes into the office

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by soundman98

middle management has nothing to do if no one comes into the office

[gtpvette]

Originally Posted by Transport3r

Can the work be done remotely? If so going back to 100% on site is just stupid. Waste of time and resources.

My company is looking into a hybrid setup where people come in 2-3 days a week and WFH 2-3 days a week. Seems like a nice balance to me. I like working from home, but certain things are easier in the office/shop.

Edit: as far as vaccines are concerned, you can encourage people to volunteer their vaccination records, but requiring a vaccine is a HIPAA minefield.

I'm in IT so yes,,, no problem working remote. I see the problem as it's hard to tell one group you have to go in and another they don't. The company is large (Fortune 200) 15,000 employees and they're pushing collaboration and culture. As a sidebar,,, worked two days from home when this all started.

I saw an article today where a judge ruled in favor of company when they fired non-vaxxed employees.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/federal-j...020713664.html

[Atropine]

I am curious what "regular" people think of unvaccinated people who caught and recovered from COVID?

I am a healthcare professional, and we all got it and many of us (at least in Idaho) don't want to do the vaccine because its not been tested etc etc.

Curious what others think?

To me it was hard to be sent "to the front lines" when this was an unknown (back when we actually thought COVID was dangerous), and now we feel stripped of our rights as far as employment being potentially threatened.

What do you guys think?

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by Atropine

I am curious what "regular" people think of unvaccinated people who caught and recovered from COVID?

I am a healthcare professional, and we all got it and many of us (at least in Idaho) don't want to do the vaccine because its not been tested etc etc.

Curious what others think?

To me it was hard to be sent "to the front lines" when this was an unknown (back when we actually thought COVID was dangerous), and now we feel stripped of our rights as far as employment being potentially threatened.

What do you guys think?

99% of people who choose to be unvaccinated are either full on conservative morons or brainwashed by their exposure to conservative media. I don’t know anyone who is a reasonably intelligent person, regardless of political alignments (sad that has to be said) that hasn’t gotten vaccinated.

Anyone can disagree with me but that doesn’t stop it from being true.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Transport3r

99% of people who choose to be unvaccinated are either full on conservative morons or brainwashed by their exposure to conservative media. I don’t know anyone who is a reasonably intelligent person, regardless of political alignments (sad that has to be said) that hasn’t gotten vaccinated.

Anyone can disagree with me but that doesn’t stop it from being true.

I've known plenty of intelligent people who still refuse the vaccine. On both political spectrums.

[Lantanafrs2]

If a company is leasing commercial property of course they want people back.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Atropine

I am curious what "regular" people think of unvaccinated people who caught and recovered from COVID?

I am a healthcare professional, and we all got it and many of us (at least in Idaho) don't want to do the vaccine because its not been tested etc etc.

Curious what others think?

To me it was hard to be sent "to the front lines" when this was an unknown (back when we actually thought COVID was dangerous), and now we feel stripped of our rights as far as employment being potentially threatened.

What do you guys think?

There is a whole thread on the vaccine, so I recommend you take a look there. If you want to know what I think, I think half the country has received the vaccine, including myself and many other members here. I think the vaccine went through three phases of trials just like every other vaccine, drug, etc, and had even more scrutiny placed on it than usual. What I cannot think of is any valid reasoning behind not getting the vaccine other than not wanting the inconvenience of actually getting it.

Frankly, I don't really care what happens to people who don't get the vaccine because it is a non-problem. If you are making a conscious decision to purposefully give yourself a disadvantage in the job market, then that's your own fault. There are plenty of other people in line willing to step in.

It's like complaining that you can't drive a commercial truck without a CDL.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by Transport3r

99% of people who choose to be unvaccinated are either full on conservative morons or brainwashed by their exposure to conservative media. I don’t know anyone who is a reasonably intelligent person, regardless of political alignments (sad that has to be said) that hasn’t gotten vaccinated.

Anyone can disagree with me but that doesn’t stop it from being true.

That's a very slippery slope. Liberal media almost turned me away from the vaccine.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I've known plenty of intelligent people who still refuse the vaccine. On both political spectrums.

All the intelligent people I know irl from all parts of the political spectrum have been vaccinated.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Atropine

I am a healthcare professional, and we all got it and many of us (at least in Idaho) don't want to do the vaccine because its not been tested etc etc.

It has been tested, just not to the full standards of the typical vaccine.

Originally Posted by Transport3r

Edit: as far as vaccines are concerned, you can encourage people to volunteer their vaccination records, but requiring a vaccine is a HIPAA minefield.

Eh, not really. All HIPAA really does is protect your information. Your employer can't go around telling people you are/are not vaccinated, that is it. OSHA, at least in OR, has okay'd business requiring employees to get vaccinated about a 6 weeks ago. A couple weeks in they made any illness caused by being vaccinated a recordable OSHA incident. They just flipped on that a week ago.

[Spuds]

As for going back to the office, as I have been saying all along, it is very hard to form effective teams remotely. If people already know each other, then yeah, you can probably continue to work remotely if the job allows for it. However, you add someone new once in a while and suddenly you have a team that just isn't as effective anymore.

Regardless of what the tech companies try to tell us, we cannot really know someone through a screen. At least that's how I see it.

My personal situation is that I joined a company in summer 2019 that was all remote work anyway (startup, I was employee #12). I find myself personally detached form a lot of the people I work with, and I still have a stronger bond with my coworkers from my previous company (large company with all in person work) than anyone I currently work with. I would like to go back into the office at least a few times per week (we have a local office now)