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10-01-2017, 12:34 AM | #15 |
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Do different pads provide a different feel? Like do organic pads feel firmer or softer than semi-metallic or ceramic or whatever?
I have a Wilwood kit with semi-metallic pads. I've bled my brakes with a mechanic friend twice on two separate occasions and there is no air in the lines, but the pedal feels like I can bottom it out if I push hard enough. The pedal feels to have less bite unless I slam it when braking abruptly. My friend's M2 has huge brakes, but I never expected them to be so on and off. I figured mine would be better than stock in endurance (heat management), stopping power and modulation/feel. I really can't remember what my car felt like stock, so it is hard to tell how the car compares. I guess I am looking for firmer feel. |
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It was the rear pads, they had only a few mm of pad left. Fronts are good for a few more years.
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I pulled my stock pads off at 35k because I got a great deal on my favorite spirited DD pad, the stoptech sports. I was shocked that there was barely any wear. I've been doing mountain runs, up and down, and DD'ing on backroads the cars whole life.
The brake dust was hardly evident before I swapped the stoptechs on...
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12-11-2017, 11:23 AM | #21 |
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In my commuter cars I used to do a lot of engine breaking, because of that my pads used to last a very long time. After some research I discovered the general recommendation is NOT to use engine breaking when you should be using breaks.
The logic is simple: Its cheaper and easier to replace break pads than to replace a clutch. I still take my foot off the gas to slow but if I need to change gear I use the breaks. I would suspect people with high mileage break pads instinctively do the following:
People with low mileage break pads are doing the following:
Having said all of the above there are days where I go back to my old pattern of engine breaking all the time. Its hard to break old habits. P.S. I have excluded people who autocross/race. If your breaks are lasting your doing it wrong.
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I try not to break my engine nor my brakes.
On a serious note, I'm at 60,000 miles, and my pads are only down about 1 mm from when I bough the car w/ 23,000 miles on it. And here I thought I was special....
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I've seen this before where people think that engine braking wears out the clutch. If the clutch is fully engauged then it will no longer be slipping. If it isn't slipping then it isn't wearing. The only extra wear I can think of from engine braking is if you downshift through each gear in which case you would put a little wear on the clutch and the syncros.
I don't engine brake to save pads though. I just do it because it's fun. It's part of driving a manual. The extra wear would be hard to measure so who cares. |
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I know this is an old post, but yes pads can give a different feel but I don't think that's the case for your pads. Does the pedal feel change much from when the pads are cold vs. when you've been putting a lot of heat into them? What are the size of the pistons in the Wilwoods compared to stock? Last edited by driggity; 12-11-2017 at 12:53 PM. |
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I made it 70,000 miles with my stock brakes. Just bought new rotors and pads all around. Should be a fun install next week.
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I agree, the one thing I don't do any more is shift down the gears to slow down. I just hit the breaks and go direct the lowest gear I think I will "knead".
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Edit: Feel I should clarify, I'm not talking up the EBC Yellows against the Winmax W5. The W5 is a dedicated track pad and isn't designed to be run cold but it is amazing once it's hot and the EBC Yellows don't compare in terms of bite or feel once they're hot. Last edited by Lynxis; 12-12-2017 at 11:16 AM. |
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