follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Engine, Exhaust, Transmission

Engine, Exhaust, Transmission Discuss the FR-S | 86 | BRZ engine, exhaust and drivetrain.


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-21-2020, 09:39 PM   #1
coconutboy
Member
 
coconutboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Drives: 2015 White BRZ Aozora
Location: Toronto
Posts: 67
Thanks: 17
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Dangerous Catless Smell Driving

I took this screenshot because Tapatalk wouldn't let me load the video I originally took. Anyways my exhaust system (UEL catless headers, high flow fp & custom catback) is being vacuumed into the car via this bar (right behind the rear bumper) and in turn coming into the cabin while driving with windows down. Anyone know what I should do? Cars naturally have holes to release air but this is not safe to drive in. I blasted the AC, closed all windows and closed my garage door with car off, hovered a cigarette around the bottom of car to see what made smoke move this most, and by far this bar had the most movement. I also put a little trees car fresher in my spare tire well and my whole car smelt like the "Black Ice" scent when I rolled the windows down. Any help is much appreciated. My chest gets tight when driving. This doesnt happen with a stock fp only high flow fp. Thank you!!



Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
coconutboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 10:01 PM   #2
DarkPira7e
Rust bucket enthusiast
 
DarkPira7e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS
Location: Vermont
Posts: 3,934
Thanks: 3,200
Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Logically it makes sense to use the stock front pipe then. If a modification causes you discomfort, take it off.
DarkPira7e is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to DarkPira7e For This Useful Post:
humfrz (05-21-2020)
Old 05-21-2020, 10:08 PM   #3
coconutboy
Member
 
coconutboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Drives: 2015 White BRZ Aozora
Location: Toronto
Posts: 67
Thanks: 17
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkPira7e View Post
Logically it makes sense to use the stock front pipe then. If a modification causes you discomfort, take it off.
I totally agree. However, the car doesnt sound that good without a high flow fp, and here's the thing. The point of an exhaust system is to get all exhaust gases from the engine, to the rear of the car. However, I am the only one with exhaust smell actually being rerouted back INTO the cabin when driving windows down. In a perfect world you only smell it at when stopped.

Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
coconutboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 10:38 PM   #4
DarkPira7e
Rust bucket enthusiast
 
DarkPira7e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS
Location: Vermont
Posts: 3,934
Thanks: 3,200
Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by coconutboy View Post
I totally agree. However, the car doesnt sound that good without a high flow fp, and here's the thing. The point of an exhaust system is to get all exhaust gases from the engine, to the rear of the car. However, I am the only one with exhaust smell actually being rerouted back INTO the cabin when driving windows down. In a perfect world you only smell it at when stopped.

Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
Maybe your exhaust system is allowing some gas to leak by a flange then? You should get it smoke tested
DarkPira7e is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 10:50 PM   #5
coconutboy
Member
 
coconutboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Drives: 2015 White BRZ Aozora
Location: Toronto
Posts: 67
Thanks: 17
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkPira7e View Post
Maybe your exhaust system is allowing some gas to leak by a flange then? You should get it smoke tested
I'm skeptical it is, so let's say hypothetically it isnt. What do I do? Lol I'm dooped

Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
coconutboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-2020, 11:12 PM   #6
humfrz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Drives: 2013 FR-S, white, MT
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 29,868
Thanks: 28,790
Thanked 31,816 Times in 16,425 Posts
Mentioned: 708 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by coconutboy View Post
I'm skeptical it is, so let's say hypothetically it isnt. What do I do? Lol I'm dooped

Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
Maybe it's like what happened to certain police SUVs, that some holes were allowing exhaust fumes into the vehicle. If that's the case, I'd suggest you plug up any suspected holes around the rear of the car.

OR, find and fix the exhaust leak.

OR, extend the exhaust system -
Attached Images
 
humfrz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to humfrz For This Useful Post:
coconutboy (05-21-2020)
Old 05-22-2020, 12:52 AM   #7
Sapphireho
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Sapphireho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: '15 ultramarine
Location: Idaho
Posts: 13,192
Thanks: 5,451
Thanked 18,240 Times in 8,609 Posts
Mentioned: 155 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by humfrz View Post
Maybe it's like what happened to certain police SUVs, that some holes were allowing exhaust fumes into the vehicle. If that's the case, I'd suggest you plug up any suspected holes around the rear of the car.

OR, find and fix the exhaust leak.

OR, extend the exhaust system -
That's at Laguna Seca. Point it infield.
Sapphireho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2020, 01:03 AM   #8
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,884
Thanks: 5,668
Thanked 5,805 Times in 3,299 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by coconutboy View Post
I'm skeptical it is, so let's say hypothetically it isnt. What do I do? Lol I'm dooped

Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
You have an exhaust leak, or you just aren’t familiar with catless cars. Ever been around or inside a classic car? It isn’t good. It is why we have catalytic converters. The irony of you saying it is not safe to breathe after removing the cats is kinda hilarious.
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Irace86.2.0 For This Useful Post:
alphasaur (06-24-2020)
Old 05-22-2020, 02:06 AM   #9
Brz866
Member
 
Brz866's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Drives: Series Blue WRB JRSC C38 HBP Flex
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 77
Thanks: 10
Thanked 27 Times in 23 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm fully catless and get the occasional whiff of fumes from wind but not to this extent and I never touched the holes you're referring to. Look for black carbon deposits leaking from the flanges. If you can't hear it you'll see it. You also say custom catback so any manor of weld defects or uneven flanges is a definite possibility.
Brz866 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2020, 10:29 AM   #10
NoHaveMSG
Senior Member
 
NoHaveMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,163
Thanks: 18,156
Thanked 16,323 Times in 7,381 Posts
Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
This is his second thread on this issue. He ignored the advice in the first thread.
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
NoHaveMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to NoHaveMSG For This Useful Post:
DarkPira7e (05-22-2020)
Old 05-22-2020, 10:33 AM   #11
Grady
Senior Member
 
Grady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Drives: BRZ Yellow, 2019 Ranger, 2011 Evora
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,685
Thanks: 352
Thanked 1,475 Times in 771 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG View Post
This is his second thread on this issue. He ignored the advice in the first thread.
We should quit giving him advise. The problem will fix itself. Darwin was correct.
Grady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2020, 10:50 AM   #12
NoHaveMSG
Senior Member
 
NoHaveMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,163
Thanks: 18,156
Thanked 16,323 Times in 7,381 Posts
Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grady View Post
We should quit giving him advise. The problem will fix itself. Darwin was correct.
LOL right? It's weird how they keep having to use ultra copper to seal exhaust gaskets, but then later on the smell comes back



Quote:
My friend who's a technician at Subaru said to take out the headers and put copper silicone on gaskets for a full seal.
Quote:
Update:

There was black soot on the gaskets.

My guy said the gaskets aren't that good even though they came with the header.

Hes working on the car now.

Will give update later
Quote:
Update:

No more smell unless coming to a stop or reversing! (This is expected)

Thanks to everyone that commented.

Mechanic put some gasket sealant on the headers to block, headers to overpipe and overpipe to fp.
Quote:
Update...

Smell vaugely came back into cabin.
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
NoHaveMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to NoHaveMSG For This Useful Post:
DarkPira7e (05-22-2020), Grady (05-22-2020), weederr33 (05-22-2020)
Old 05-22-2020, 11:40 AM   #13
DarkPira7e
Rust bucket enthusiast
 
DarkPira7e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS
Location: Vermont
Posts: 3,934
Thanks: 3,200
Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG View Post
LOL right? It's weird how they keep having to use ultra copper to seal exhaust gaskets, but then later on the smell comes back
I'm not sure what it is about the internet where people who don't get the answer they want to hear just keep asking differently, hoping they'll find someone who gives them something they want to hear.
DarkPira7e is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to DarkPira7e For This Useful Post:
humfrz (05-22-2020), NoHaveMSG (05-22-2020)
Old 05-22-2020, 11:43 AM   #14
NoHaveMSG
Senior Member
 
NoHaveMSG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Drives: Crapcan
Location: Oregon
Posts: 11,163
Thanks: 18,156
Thanked 16,323 Times in 7,381 Posts
Mentioned: 107 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkPira7e View Post
I'm not sure what it is about the internet where people who don't get the answer they want to hear just keep asking differently, hoping they'll find someone who gives them something they want to hear.
They like the easiest answer.
__________________
"Experience is the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward." -Oscar Wilde.
NoHaveMSG is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Catless header exhaust smell? Aegis3425 Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 18 03-18-2020 07:01 PM
Question about catless header smell Mr.Impreza Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 26 10-30-2015 10:17 AM
oil smell from exhaust..catless? nickmerronesucks Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 7 07-22-2015 05:44 PM
Running catless, rasp and smell pgeist Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 41 04-21-2014 07:26 AM
AVIC dangerous driving warning Ben_G CANADA 14 11-25-2013 04:33 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:13 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.