Did I miss out??

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by TooSlow

This was on the buyatoyota.com website:

https://www.buyatoyota.com/norcal/of...=86_cash_70724

Each 86 comes with Toyota Safety Sense (TSS-P) - a suite of advanced safety features which include: Dynamic Radar Cruise Control, Automatic High Beams, Pre-*Collision System with Pedestrian Detection function and Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist - at no additional cost.

I'm pretty sure the 2019's don't have them. If they did, I would have waited till this year instead of buying my 86 in 2018. More safety gear the better.

I'm assuming the platform isn't set up for that stuff, especially since we're dealing with a mix of Subaru and Toyota components. The time + cost of figuring out a solution that isn't crap is probably out of the question for this gen.

Also, "free." Blah, the cost is baked into the final price.

I'm okay with blind spot monitoring and automatic high beams, but nothing better take control of the wheel or apply the brakes without my input.

[Sasquachulator]

The car came out (and has been pretty much the same since) when the Star Safety system was the norm in Toyota cars.

all the new fangled Toyota Safety Sense stuff (which really became standard like 2 years ago) was not implemented in this car.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

People really need to learn to adjust their mirrors. I have zero issues seeing out of mine except for figuring out exactly where the wheels end since they stick out past the bodywork on my car. It could be much better of course. IMO the FT86 suffers from rear visibility issues also though.

ALL the cars I drive suffer from this -


humfrz

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by humfrz

ALL the cars I drive suffer from this -


humfrz

Ok, it's the cars...

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Ok, it's the cars...

Well, yes, all except one -


humfrz

[FR-Sky]

There will be always a new car with a new feature, you didn't miss anything

[Vracer111]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Well, yes, all except one -


humfrz

And that one has forward visibility issues...only way can be driven is with the top down because the top frame of the windshield is right in my face blocking half my view and my head would be pushing up against the top with it down. Have to bend way down and tilt head way up with face nearly against glass to see a traffic signal... LOL

Barely fit in the FR-S comfortably with aftermarket seat and head a fingers thickness from the headliner. Still have to lean a little bit forward and down and look up to see most traffic lights. At least the windshield lets me see above the horizon a little. 6'2" with long torso.

[Vracer111]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

People really need to learn to adjust their mirrors. I have zero issues seeing out of mine except for figuring out exactly where the wheels end since they stick out past the bodywork on my car. It could be much better of course. IMO the FT86 suffers from rear visibility issues also though.

More about the forward and side visibility... looking sideways in a camaro is almost like looking ahead in a miata for me...slightly better.

[jrb363]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

I'm assuming the platform isn't set up for that stuff, especially since we're dealing with a mix of Subaru and Toyota components. The time + cost of figuring out a solution that isn't crap is probably out of the question for this gen.



Also, "free." Blah, the cost is baked into the final price.



I'm okay with blind spot monitoring and automatic high beams, but nothing better take control of the wheel or apply the brakes without my input.

This. I don't want a computer attempting to override my inputs. It seems as if that would cause more issues than it's worth.

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[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Vracer111

And that one has forward visibility issues...only way can be driven is with the top down because the top frame of the windshield is right in my face blocking half my view and my head would be pushing up against the top with it down. Have to bend way down and tilt head way up with face nearly against glass to see a traffic signal... LOL

Barely fit in the FR-S comfortably with aftermarket seat and head a fingers thickness from the headliner. Still have to lean a little bit forward and down and look up to see most traffic lights. At least the windshield lets me see above the horizon a little. 6'2" with long torso.

OK, I got the vehicle for you -


humfrz

[Contender]

I wouldn't buy an 86 if it had that crap!

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The wife's Impreza has the Subaru equivalent to this. I call it the "Distracted Driving Package". Some of it such as the active cruise and back up movement sensors I really really like. Could do without the lane departure and "vehicle in front has moved" warnings though. Don't know about the Toyota package but at least hers allows you to turn off each thing desperately so you can pic and choose what you want.
The biggest drawback so far is the thing is massive and takes up a good chunk of windshield real-estate. When it makes a difference in that massive chunk of glass in the Impreza I can't imagine what it would do to visibility in the FRS
Had a couple of people say it looks light lights in a cop car.

Yep that's eyesight, the mazda systems are much smaller I'll take a picture in the day light and are just as effective.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by jrb363

This. I don't want a computer attempting to override my inputs. It seems as if that would cause more issues than it's worth.

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It isn't as invasive as I thought it would be. You could force it to drive into a wall but it would scream at you constantly. In most cases it doesn't act as long as there is some sort of input.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Yep that's eyesight, the mazda systems are much smaller I'll take a picture in the day light and are just as effective.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The wife's Impreza has the Subaru equivalent to this. I call it the "Distracted Driving Package". Some of it such as the active cruise and back up movement sensors I really really like. Could do without the lane departure and "vehicle in front has moved" warnings though. Don't know about the Toyota package but at least hers allows you to turn off each thing desperately so you can pic and choose what you want.
The biggest drawback so far is the thing is massive and takes up a good chunk of windshield real-estate. When it makes a difference in that massive chunk of glass in the Impreza I can't imagine what it would do to visibility in the FRS
Had a couple of people say it looks light lights in a cop car.

Can only really notice it on my mazda in the frost, but after the snow today I took a pic, other companies seem to do a better job of integrating radar and lidar all throughout the body than subaru I guess. The camera controls alot and it's been just as good as the ascent I test drove with all the safety nannies. The huge mazda logo on the front of these cars houses alot of radar and lidar equipment. So I guess that's how they get around using two cameras: