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This is the first time I've heard about HANS being recommended for use outside of dedicated racecar builds.
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A head and neck restraint should be used with ANY 4/5/6 point harness, period. Not doing so is extremely dangerous.
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My instructor (20 year racing veteran, ITE and other classes) was very clear with me on this- he wanted me to go buy as many sets of these tires(stockers) as I could, because of how progressive and easy to learn on they are. I'm throwing my plan for DZIIs out the window for now, and I'll do a more intermediate upgrade instead, aimed at lower cost and easy learning curve. He told me until I start cording and chunking the street type compound of that tire, I shouldn't move up to the high end street rubber, unless I want to slow down my learning. It was incredible being able to feel how the slight changes in acceleration completely hamstrung the tire's ability to put down enough traction for turn in on subsequent turns with this tire. This, and other scenarios, made it very clear when I was asking too much of the tires because I was trying to do two things at the same time- turning, weight transferring from side to side or front to back, accelerating, or decelerating. Even subtle changes, not just big ones. Once I have those things down, transitioning to a faster tire will make me much, much faster.
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After having done several autocross "school" days, I guess my experience leads me to a different conclusion. After the whole training day, I had maybe... 8 or 9 minutes seat time. Which is above average for an autocross day. With the HPDE, I had 90 minutes seat time. And since the turns and maneuvers take longer to develop, I was able to take time to understand them a bit more- in autocross, I'm so busy trying to slam the wheel back and forth to make those cone gates that I have less time to really internalize my experience and analyze it. Although still fun as hell.
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Now, doing autocross once you are an intermediate track driver is a much different cup of tea. By the time you are at an intermediate level you tend to have alot more sense for what the car is doing underneath you. Essentially your bandwidth for absorbing information is higher because you have something to reference against it. At that point the autocross becomes a great place to overdrive the car and experience the failure modes you need to avoid on the track. Frankly it is unfortunate that it is this way. The speeds of an autocross really are much safer for a beginner. I would imagine that some sort of an extreme skid pad exercise with longer arcing turns would help this alot, but that wouldn't be as much fun for the experienced people
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I just had my first autox event yesterday and I'm hooked. I want to do more HPDE event. However cost is a major concern. At around $50 a pop autox is very affordable for me. However I feel like it's not the best learning environment for a noob. Granted I had so much fun. Should I continue to do autox event or should I save up and do few track days to really learn driving techniques before going back to autox?
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I can see myself having a great time competing in autocrossing. Track day would be something that is fun and educational but won't be building my car for that. My goal for my car and myself is to be semi competitive in the autox c street class( that was what i was put in). But with 6 under a min ran per day on autox it's hard to try and apply technique and to analyze my driving for improvement. That where I see track day being an advantage? |
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This is what Randy Pobst has to say about what autocross did for his career: http://www.randypobst.com/index.cfm?...y&form_years=1 |
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$5 event!!!!
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