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Old 02-02-2018, 11:52 PM   #1
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The Ultimate FA20 ITB thread.

Lets use this as a compendium for ITBs for the FA20.

Available ITB systems, in alphabetical order.

EMC engineering
GReddy
SARD

I have both on the way, and will be testing both in NA form on a borrowed 2017 (@counterspace garage's 2017 test mule), and then on my GReddy turbocharged 2017, for results, in conjunction with @Delicious tuning.

In the mean time, lets try to gather as much information on these systems, as well as any others that come out, and keep that in this first post.

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At the moment, to my knowledge, the GReddy and SARD systems use identical throttle bodies, but have different center manifold/plenum sections.

I'm waiting for both systems to be in-hand for a comparison.

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GReddy



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GReddy revving.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw4At62nqOw[/ame]

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Argghhh can't wait! Pretty sure they are both ae111 itbs, although the sard is listed as 45mm and the greddy is listed as 48mm. Emc engineering looks identical to the greddy but from what i recall had a 50mm and 100mm option.
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Cool. Very interested in the results.
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At the moment, to my knowledge, the GReddy and SARD systems use identical throttle bodies, but have different center manifold/plenum sections.

I'm waiting for both systems to be in-hand for a comparison.
SARD seems to have 45mm diameter and Greddy has picked 48mm.
http://www.sard.co.jp/pdf/1710_4Throttle.pdf

http://greddy.com/products/Special+V...rtnum=11910200

I'm speculating Greddy's is larger because they have/had their's aimed at the larger displacement kit.

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@CSG Mike you are forgetting about full blown motorsports ITB. They have one.
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@CSG Mike you are forgetting about full blown motorsports ITB. They have one.
I was not aware! Can you link me please?

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Did a quick search, and I found an intake manifold but not an ITB. Can you get me a direct link please?
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SARD seems to have 45mm diameter and Greddy has picked 48mm.
http://www.sard.co.jp/pdf/1710_4Throttle.pdf

http://greddy.com/products/Special+V...rtnum=11910200

I'm speculating Greddy's is larger because they have/had their's aimed at the larger displacement kit.

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Not seeing any specs on the SARD unit. I'll take measurements...
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Not seeing any specs on the SARD unit. I'll take measurements...
Question do you think the Crawford billet power blocks with an ITB would fit and offer any benefit?
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Question do you think the Crawford billet power blocks with an ITB would fit and offer any benefit?
Unlikely; it wouldn't be difficult for any of these ITBs to be "taller" if there was benefit.

I won't be testing power blocks with my ITBs, but I hope someone else does!
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