Motor1 Drives The 2017 Subaru BRZ!

[Beastronix]

Hopefully the traction system data I have so far will help answer some questions...

The track mode does replace sport mode with elevated thresholds that are actually tuned this time around instead of a slapped on "ooooo sport mode" feature.

Think of it like the new Focus RS if you've driven one. The system is tailored to make the driving fun and simplify it. The RS is so easy to sling around in it's various modes due to the tuning of the traction systems that it's more of a help me control. The system is providing fun easily, rather than taking it away like we are used to.

The OFF function remains unchanged. The OFF will be less attractive due to the lack of fun assist in the track mode, but it's still a higher threshold than the sport/track modes.

There won't be factory access to a full off mode without user intervention. Safety regulations are the reason why. Manufacturers have to meet specific regulations and traction systems are a big one now required in the US for any vehicle under 10,000 lbs. They've been proven to save lives on public roads which is why any use of pedal dance should be saved for competition & HPDE environments only.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by funwheeldrive

Interesting read. I would have thought the increased power would be more noticeable.

It seems like a nice revision, but nothing worth trading a current 86 for.

I can imagine that they'll attract a few new buyers and some others that are leasing their cars and don't want to go into another car or brand. Personally I still remain a fan of the platform, but I would never trade the older with the newer version.

At least it is now clear that they'll never go into a higher engine displacement or a small turbo. If they don't manage to find a smart hybrid technology for the 2nd generation, then it'll just have the fate of the s2000. So, we'll be happy owners of a car with its own history and its life-cycle within the automotive industry.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

I don't think they 'll make it backward compatible.

I didn't mean necessarily Subaru. With the new model to tune though, perhaps backwards capability could be unlocked by ecutek or something. I mean, it would be cool. lol.

[nico_rsx]

Originally Posted by Beastronix

The OFF function remains unchanged. The OFF will be less attractive due to the lack of fun assist in the track mode, but it's still a higher threshold than the sport/track modes.

From what i've read (I think in the subaru leaked document), is that the OFF mode is changed. The electronic brake force distribution is removed (was still there for the 2013-2016). An Off mode will always be attractive to people doing autocross and lapping/racing. I'd even say essential. I've seen report of people saying in high speed circuit, in off mode (not pedal dance), the nannies were doing some scary things.