Camber plate increments. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

gen3v8 · 05-18-2022, 03:56 AM

I need a rough estimate how far to move the camber plate adjuster to get 1 degree of change. All help appreciated.

MrSkubi · 05-18-2022, 04:56 AM

I'm not sure if anyone will be able to give you close number. There are just to many variables (amount of lowering, camber plate type etc) plus if you take the car to the alignment shop you might need to set both camber plate adjusters at different position to get matching camber specs on both sides.

gen3v8 · 05-18-2022, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MrSkubi

I'm not sure if anyone will be able to give you close number. There are just to many variables (amount of lowering, camber plate type etc) plus if you take the car to the alignment shop you might need to set both camber plate adjusters at different position to get matching camber specs on both sides.

It` a basic angle, height will change it a bees willy. Type of plate same thing. I just want a rough idea for testing. I don`t care about near/off side difference because the track camber and circuit rotation will alter this. Thanks Skubi

MrSkubi · 05-18-2022, 05:48 AM

That's how my are set up right now: -3,00 Both sides, lowered 20mm, OEM crash bolt in upper strut hole. As you can see setting anything by adjusting just camber plate might be quite inaccurate because my driver side is almost maxed out and I do still have some adjustment left at passenger side. Tein Flex A

x808drifter · 05-18-2022, 07:33 AM

There is no answer we can give you.
Those marks are for you to know because like Sukubi said there are to any other variables. They are akin to a dope book for snipers.

The difference in camber angle for each marking is going to be car specific hell even side specific.

gen3v8 · 05-18-2022, 12:58 PM

I`m lucky in one aspect. mine are equally centered on zero ,both sides, at -2.4. MCA and have a neat mix and match (crash bolt?) base camber adjustment system.
https://mcasuspension.com/camber-washers-explained

I asked when it was aligned how much and which way toe would would go if I added more negative camber. I don`t remember now because when told it was not enough to worry about. I would like a bit more negative camber for the track events next two w/ends. I can easily return the setting afterwards.

The amount of camber before an event is also a ballpark figure. It will change depending on the track, the tires, the drivers aggression and more. So i guess I will just adjust myself to suit tire wear/temp and get a figure next time at the aligners. So I can run a street/track compromise that won`t kill tires quicker than necessary.

Autoxer62 · 05-18-2022, 01:45 PM

As I recall the ones that came on my KW V2's gave me about 2 degrees total from one side to the other, or +1/-1 from center. To get the total I wanted (3.5 or so) I did one 14mm bolt and one SPC camber bolt at the knuckle, then used the top hat for the fine adjustment.

gen3v8 · 05-19-2022, 01:54 AM

Spoke to a suspension guy for Toyota Gazoo racing Australia and got the ball park figure I was after. So now I can move the camber plates enough to do
tire temp tests at the track and dial it in nicely.
Here are my plates with -2°30' camber +5°30' caster both sides.

Captain Snooze · 05-19-2022, 05:51 AM

Get one of these off Ebay. Surprisingly good enough.

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gen3v8 · 05-19-2022, 09:46 PM

Made this it`s accurate and sits against the rim lip. It will do to keep tabs at the track with my pyrometer

Ultramaroon · 05-19-2022, 10:28 PM

repurposed tools ftw

05-18-2022, 03:56 AM	#1
gen3v8 Barred Join Date: Oct 2020 Drives: My18 wrxsti My19 brzts Location: Botany Bay Posts: 1,144 Thanks: 729 Thanked 1,187 Times in 610 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Camber plate increments. I need a rough estimate how far to move the camber plate adjuster to get 1 degree of change. All help appreciated. __________________ Wait until my Flex capacitor hits 88

05-18-2022, 05:48 AM	#4
MrSkubi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Drives: 17 BRZ ,21 GR Yaris, 23 GR86 Location: Poland Posts: 150 Thanks: 395 Thanked 134 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's how my are set up right now: -3,00 Both sides, lowered 20mm, OEM crash bolt in upper strut hole. As you can see setting anything by adjusting just camber plate might be quite inaccurate because my driver side is almost maxed out and I do still have some adjustment left at passenger side. Tein Flex A Last edited by MrSkubi; 05-18-2022 at 05:49 AM. Reason: url fix

05-18-2022, 12:58 PM	#6
gen3v8 Barred Join Date: Oct 2020 Drives: My18 wrxsti My19 brzts Location: Botany Bay Posts: 1,144 Thanks: 729 Thanked 1,187 Times in 610 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I`m lucky in one aspect. mine are equally centered on zero ,both sides, at -2.4. MCA and have a neat mix and match (crash bolt?) base camber adjustment system. https://mcasuspension.com/camber-washers-explained I asked when it was aligned how much and which way toe would would go if I added more negative camber. I don`t remember now because when told it was not enough to worry about. I would like a bit more negative camber for the track events next two w/ends. I can easily return the setting afterwards. The amount of camber before an event is also a ballpark figure. It will change depending on the track, the tires, the drivers aggression and more. So i guess I will just adjust myself to suit tire wear/temp and get a figure next time at the aligners. So I can run a street/track compromise that won`t kill tires quicker than necessary. __________________ Wait until my Flex capacitor hits 88 Last edited by gen3v8; 05-18-2022 at 02:40 PM.

05-18-2022, 01:45 PM	#7
Autoxer62 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 149 Thanks: 45 Thanked 70 Times in 51 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	As I recall the ones that came on my KW V2's gave me about 2 degrees total from one side to the other, or +1/-1 from center. To get the total I wanted (3.5 or so) I did one 14mm bolt and one SPC camber bolt at the knuckle, then used the top hat for the fine adjustment. __________________ -- Bryan Blackwell -- 2020 Hakone 86 -- KW V2 6k&9k/Karcepts Sway Bars/SPC&Diftech RCLA/SuperPro bshngs/17x9 RPF1/255-40-17 RT660/Hawk5.0 Pads/RacerX MC Brace

05-19-2022, 01:54 AM	#8
gen3v8 Barred Join Date: Oct 2020 Drives: My18 wrxsti My19 brzts Location: Botany Bay Posts: 1,144 Thanks: 729 Thanked 1,187 Times in 610 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Spoke to a suspension guy for Toyota Gazoo racing Australia and got the ball park figure I was after. So now I can move the camber plates enough to do tire temp tests at the track and dial it in nicely. Here are my plates with -2°30' camber +5°30' caster both sides. Attached Images __________________ Wait until my Flex capacitor hits 88

05-18-2022, 04:56 AM	#2
MrSkubi Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Drives: 17 BRZ ,21 GR Yaris, 23 GR86 Location: Poland Posts: 150 Thanks: 395 Thanked 134 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm not sure if anyone will be able to give you close number. There are just to many variables (amount of lowering, camber plate type etc) plus if you take the car to the alignment shop you might need to set both camber plate adjusters at different position to get matching camber specs on both sides.

05-18-2022, 07:33 AM	#5
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05-19-2022, 05:51 AM	#9
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05-19-2022, 09:46 PM	#10
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