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Old 01-27-2021, 12:06 AM   #687
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My main home defense weapon is a short barreled shotgun, and the first round is bird shot. If that doesn't get their attention, the next 7 rounds are buckshot.

You have to shoot. If you don't know how to use your weapon without thinking about it, you won't know how when the shit hits the fan and you are scared and your blood turns to pure adrenaline.

For homeless bums, I would get a bat and a big can of pepper spray to keep near the door.
Same here but my short barrel option Remington 870 pump first round is 00 buckshot alternated with slugs with muzzle energy equivalent to a loaded 18-wheeler.

If that doesn't slow the zombies down, it should allow enough time to get to the HK 45 ACP Compact (my legal carry weapon because the holster clears the seat belt latch) in the front of the house or my favorite Browning High Power 9 in the back.

I don't have a baseball bat but have several tennis racquets except those don't count.
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Old 01-27-2021, 01:23 AM   #688
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Spencer model of 1882.

One of the first successful pump-shotguns. Sadly, I picked this one up with a shattered wrist. I pieced it back together as best I could, with wood glue, walnut sanding dust, and dye, and filled a void in the toe. Itís only a cosmetic fix, but Iím honestly not interested in shooting it anyway. I think it would require finding reloadable brass of the correct dimension and then hand-loading them with black powder. Iíve had it apart, and itís very interesting mechanically, with a heavy pivoting breech block powered by a forged leaf spring that throws empties straight out the top.



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What part is the shattered wrist?
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What part is the shattered wrist?
The wrist of the stock, where it connects to the tang of the receiver. A lot of old shotguns tended to have that exaggerated “head-up” shooting position, and the wrists were often thin. If the wood was highly figured through the wrist or if the grain was running the wrong way they could break. Mine had shattered a long time ago, and a pre-war style repair was done using a few brass nails, a wire wrap, and water-shrunk leather. It looked like the gun had remained in use after the repair, but by the time I ran across it, it had begun to fall apart and the action was so gummed-up it would barely cycle. I decided to take it all to bits and clean it. The wrist of the stock was in about five pieces. I managed a passable cosmetic repair but it will never be strong enough to shoot. It really just needs a new stock. I have a blank that I may attempt to make a new stock from someday, if I get really motivated.

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Same here but my short barrel option Remington 870 pump first round is 00 buckshot alternated with slugs with muzzle energy equivalent to a loaded 18-wheeler.

If that doesn't slow the zombies down, it should allow enough time to get to the HK 45 ACP Compact (my legal carry weapon because the holster clears the seat belt latch) in the front of the house or my favorite Browning High Power 9 in the back.

I don't have a baseball bat but have several tennis racquets except those don't count.
Lol. I turned my 870 into home defense after I got my super black eagle. Best duck gun ever.
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Short Magazine Lee Enfield, made at Enfield, England, in 1905. I think this example is known as a No.1 Mk.1, with additional updates performed, I think, in 1914. It’s marked I***. I believe some of the updates had to do with new ammunition types that had recently become available. I’ve never shot it and I’m not 100% positive if I can safely run modern ammunition through it despite the updates. I owned it about ten years before making the decision to take it to bits and clean it. It’s possible that it hadn’t been taken completely apart since it’s last round of updates. There was quite a lot of caked dirt and cosmoline under the stocks, together with some superficial surface rust. I really wish I knew more about these rifles and where this one might have seen service. The floating charger guide is one of the strangest features of this generation.



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1905 S.M.L.E.

Short Magazine Lee Enfield, made at Enfield, England, in 1905. I think this example is known as a No.1 Mk.1, with additional updates performed, I think, in 1914. Itís marked I***. I believe some of the updates had to do with new ammunition types that had recently become available. Iíve never shot it and Iím not 100% positive if I can safely run modern ammunition through it despite the updates. I owned it about ten years before making the decision to take it to bits and clean it. Itís possible that it hadnít been taken completely apart since itís last round of updates. There was quite a lot of caked dirt and cosmoline under the stocks, together with some superficial surface rust. I really wish I knew more about these rifles and where this one might have seen service. The floating charger guide is one of the strangest features of this generation.
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Is that a bayonet or a sword? -

Right?!

British military doctrine over the years was so strange. I couldn’t say what was going through their heads at any given time. They took interesting lessons away from each conflict. I think this is a 1907 pattern bayonet. It came with my rifle, but I have no way of knowing how long they’ve been together.

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Right?!

British military doctrine over the years was so strange. I couldnít say what was going through their heads at any given time. They took interesting lessons away from each conflict. I think this is a 1907 pattern bayonet. It came with my rifle, but I have no way of knowing how long theyíve been together.
With that stuck on the end of the rifle, in trench warfare, I could see where the added "reach" would have an advantage -

PS - I just read your attachment after I posted - . Interesting.
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With that stuck on the end of the rifle, in trench warfare, I could see where the added "reach" would have an advantage -

PS - I just read your attachment after I posted - . Interesting.
That makes sense. I bet youíre right.

Iíve never really done any research on them. Maybe it was designed to compensate for that controversial 25Ē barrel length. Iím pretty sure I would have been shot by my own side for being a coward and refusing to go ďover the topĒ. I canít even imagine.....
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best time i ever had at the range was watching a big burly tough guy that's never shot before walk up to the line with his brand new 45, lines up down range, fires, and screams as the gun jumps out of his hands.

My father-in-law used to be in the army, part of a security detail. He is retired now but still enters into some shooting competitions. I have no idea what the type of competition is called but there are structures and targets. One moves from one station to another and there is (I think) a combination of accuracy and time taken involved.

He turns up with some shitty decrepit pistol that might have cost a few hundred dollars that he has fixed up and he will whip all these clowns who turn up with their flash "I've got all the gear".
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My father-in-law used to be in the army, part of a security detail. He is retired now but still enters into some shooting competitions. I have no idea what the type of competition is called but there are structures and targets. One moves from one station to another and there is (I think) a combination of accuracy and time taken involved.

He turns up with some shitty decrepit pistol that might have cost a few hundred dollars that he has fixed up and he will whip all these clowns who turn up with their flash "I've got all the gear".
I am legitimately blown away by what some people can do with open sights. Rifles and pistols both.
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He turns up with some shitty decrepit pistol that might have cost a few hundred dollars that he has fixed up and he will whip all these clowns who turn up with their flash "I've got all the gear".
My Father was a good shot, had been shooting since he was big enough to carry a gun.

He used to go to Turkey Shoots and would always use the house gun, which was typically the cheapest, most broken shotgun available in the county.

He won about 70% of the time he shot.
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My father-in-law used to be in the army, part of a security detail. He is retired now but still enters into some shooting competitions. I have no idea what the type of competition is called but there are structures and targets. One moves from one station to another and there is (I think) a combination of accuracy and time taken involved.

He turns up with some shitty decrepit pistol that might have cost a few hundred dollars that he has fixed up and he will whip all these clowns who turn up with their flash "I've got all the gear".
Ian from the Forgotten Weapons YouTube channel does that. He will show up with either an oddball, or a historic firearm and use it. A few of the video openings will show a group of people around his gun case wondering WTF he brought. There is video of him using a chauchat lmg during a match that is pretty amusing because of how comically clumsy it is.
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My oldest son was a high level Army sniper, two tours. He can kill you from a mile away. He came home in one piece, so I guess he won.
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