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05-13-2015, 11:20 PM | #57 | |
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I have to disagree with that last point. Under $35k and over 425hp (with a lot of room to grow), are pretty good figures these days. And in the end, after TTL, I spent roughly $5k more than my wife did on her FRS. The cash cow are all those v6's, which are overpriced and are everywhere. I think the V8 Mustang & Camaro are almost as niche as the Twins; I'd say I see one of the Twins about as much as I see the American V8's. On that note, the 5th Gen is done (no more orders) and it's ready to move towards its classic status. Bring on the 6th gen! |
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Lots of people have done this. Some to a large extent figuring they would score at least a few hits. The irony of a zero mile car is that the minute the buyer drives it on the trailer, they destroy its value. So, not much of a market. Besides, after that many years, all the rubber is junk anyways, so the car might look good but would need a total restoration. |
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Hey, my 2017 is special
Only 60 2017 Limited Editions were released here All manual All with PP All solar orange Mine has: MCA coilovers RPF-1 rims AVO Turbo Bushings up its wazzo Window tint Numerous scratches on the front bar Some swirl marks on the roof from when the Mrs took the car to a "car wash" place (bloody monkeys) Sure, I could have left it stock and hoped that it appreciated in value (which it wouldn't), albeit with the additional cost of storage and insurance, but, why, the car hasn't won any world class races to give it that edge, the car is a massed produced cheap sports coupe, hell, I honestly cannot see it holding together for 20 years, even in stock form. The twins have actually a questionable history, recall, boxer engine, rods, frontbar droop, gearbox. Will someone want a twin in 20 years, yeap, just like people want a MGB, or a old MX5 or a AMC Pacer. Me, I'm putting miles and scratches on mine and enjoying every minute. This is like what I'll be driving in 20 years >
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As others have said, you'd have to buy a 1st-gen and keep it in a garage for about 40 years. Long enough for the kids who dreamed of owning them in high school to become engineers with disposable incomes. Then throw it up on BaT and let the bidding begin. Personally I'm just going to enjoy my car for as long as I can. I've only put 30k miles on it in six years. It's daily driven but I just don't venture too far. I still think it looks like a million bucks with wheels and tires and mahogany leather upholstery.
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I mean 1st Gen Integra Type R is basically being sold for 70k now... so.....
I don’t know But I think a very low mile Brz tS will have zero problem getting some pretty numbers @ Barrett Jackson in 30 years.... Let’s see how much longer internal combustion stays mainstream. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Don't think so but you never know otherwise everybody will have held on to that car they told you they owned 20-30 years ago but is now worth a small fortune but they sold it and regret it in hindsight. EG my mum's Holden VL turbo (RB30 skyline engine in an Australian built Sedan) and Dads Escort for any non Australians who don't know these cars are worth small fortunes here. the thing holding back this car imo is the FA20 it's not sought out after. The AE86 has a motor still being worked on and swapped into vehicles today. Who will be working on the FA20 motors in 30 years ?
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Exactly, rather in 20 years my 86 is in my garage collectible or not still functioning then anything else. By then i will probably reward it for serving me for almost 2 decades with a fresh engine if it needs one and drive train and then we can go another 20 years in which time I'm hopefully eligible for a pension.
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20 years is too early guys. Give it Atleast 30 years plus. I mean look at the corvettes, those didn’t even get expensive till like 40+ years. But I wonder if today’s car is still drivable in 50 years with all that electronics.
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But that's not the only cost of owning the car. There's insurance, registration, maintenance and carrying costs like the cost of the space it takes up. For example, it might cost you more to own a house with a garage to protect it than it would to rent some place that doesn't even have a carport. You have to consider it all. Let's be conservative and say you just put it in storage for 30 years and took it out periodically for the basic maintenance necessary to keep it from rotting, and somehow that only cost you $1000 per year. (It would cost you more than that, but let's say you're a wizard who can do magic.) Now you're up to $84K that you'd have to get at auction just to break even. This is why people who understand finance generally don't buy cars expecting a capital gain. The people who make money at Barrett Jackson are not the people who held the cars for all those years. If you store your car and sell it at auction, you'll lose money. The only people who make money at Barrett Jackson are the ones who can spot a deal that someone else paid the carrying costs on, pick it up at a discount and resell it at auction. |
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I think the twins will be collectible in the same way a good example of an S2000 or RX-7 is sought after. Of course they won’t be setting record sales at Barrett Jackson, but we are already seeing a shift from classic muscle cars to classic Japanese cars. People with more disposable income, who grew up in the import scene, will want clean examples. It will always be a desirable, if not a true collectors item.
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I'm going to get old driving this car, thinking it's the greatest thing in the world. I'll basically be Uncle Rico. Everyone else will have moved on and I'll be like "see that stop light? How much you wanna bet I can reach that light in 45 seconds."
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