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Old 12-04-2011, 12:39 PM   #1
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Base BRZ exterior pictures?

Hello all, does anyone have any exterior pictures of a US spec BRZ. I have seen the wingless pics however they still have 17" wheels. All of these new reviews state that the base car has 16 inch wheels...
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I honestly don't think the 16" wheel bit is true. That's less than the cheaper FR-S has. I just can't see that happening.

And no, no real pics (without camo) have been seen of it as far as I know.
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I honestly don't think the 16" wheel bit is true. That's less than the cheaper FR-S has. I just can't see that happening.

And no, no real pics (without camo) have been seen of it as far as I know.
I was thinking the same thing, what throws me is the mention of two different brake packages. I hope you turn out to be correct.
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I was thinking the same thing, what throws me is the mention of two different brake packages. I hope you turn out to be correct.
Oh I can tell you 100% for sure that the brake info from MT is wrong. Even a Ford Fiesta has vented front rotors. There is zero chance that this car will have solid front rotors.

In Japan there is a low spec and high spec brake setup, but based on the vented rears on the FRS I'm guessing all US cars will get the high spec brakes.
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There is the possibilty that subaru is decontenting performance to reduce cost while scion is decontenting ammeneties to make their price point for a different market segment. The lack of venting in the front rotor may have been a reporting error, but it is entirely possible it does have the lower spec brake package in base trim. Soon enough I'm sure we will get something more defininitive.
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I honestly don't think the 16" wheel bit is true. That's less than the cheaper FR-S has. I just can't see that happening.
As long as 16's will clear the brakes I think they'd make sense for a base BRZ...but not for $24,000 The base FR-S comes with 17's to appeal to a different crowd. I mean look at the tC, it comes with 18's standard!
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As long as 16's will clear the brakes I think they'd make sense for a base BRZ...but not for $24,000 The base FR-S comes with 17's to appeal to a different crowd. I mean look at the tC, it comes with 18's standard!

scion as a brand targets the youth market, where wheel size is important. The tc is about an image. your 24k is buying a sports car from subaru with the luxury a middle aged adult would demand over the image of the vehicle. a tc is essentially what a base camry coupe would be (mechanically) after all, just glitzed out to push the visual buttons that attract kids to that car. Case in point, frs gets 17s, because its more appealing. but it gives up some ammenities to the brz in base trim. the average brz buyer (supposedly intended to be middle aged) is going to be more interested in nav or hids then bigger wheels, generally speaking. all that said, I am hoping I turn out to be wrong and you guys are right, but I fear I may not be...
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scion as a brand targets the youth market, where wheel size is important. The tc is about an image. your 24k is buying a sports car from subaru with the luxury a middle aged adult would demand over the image of the vehicle. a tc is essentially what a base camry coupe would be (mechanically) after all, just glitzed out to push the visual buttons that attract kids to that car. Case in point, frs gets 17s, because its more appealing. but it gives up some ammenities to the brz in base trim. the average brz buyer (supposedly intended to be middle aged) is going to be more interested in nav or hids then bigger wheels, generally speaking. all that said, I am hoping I turn out to be wrong and you guys are right, but I fear I may not be...
No, we want at least 17 inch wheels...16 inch is ok if we are going to pull them off and put on our own rims and tires.

But a lot of people are not going to do that.

16 inch rims on a this car looks too small. Just think, only the base Miata has 16 inch rims...the two higher trims have 17 inch rims. The Mazda Speed3 has 18 inch.

For the USA it is possible that the premium BRZ will have 17 inch and the Limited will have 18 inch. There is still over 6 months to go and content can change.
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No, we want at least 17 inch wheels...16 inch is ok if we are going to pull them off and put on our own rims and tires.

But a lot of people are not going to do that.

16 inch rims on a this car looks too small. Just think, only the base Miata has 16 inch rims...the two higher trims have 17 inch rims. The Mazda Speed3 has 18 inch.

For the USA it is possible that the premium BRZ will have 17 inch and the Limited will have 18 inch. There is still over 6 months to go and content can change.
I would hope that the two trim levels come with 17 and 18 inch wheels respectively. More than likely it won't make a difference to me either way as I plan on replacing the wheels after I go through the first set of tires that comes on the car from the dealer.
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The brake estimates are grossly over-exaggerated. I'd estimate them being around 11.5" up front and 11" in the rear.

Brakes are expensive and to keep costs down you'd be an idiot to believe them being 14" or whatever the claim was on twitter.
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The brake estimates are grossly over-exaggerated. I'd estimate them being around 11.5" up front and 11" in the rear.

Brakes are expensive and to keep costs down you'd be an idiot to believe them being 14" or whatever the claim was on twitter.
It's 11.6F/11.4R.
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No, we want at least 17 inch wheels...16 inch is ok if we are going to pull them off and put on our own rims and tires.

But a lot of people are not going to do that.
Then give them optional 17's with 16's as standard
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It is far from absurd that the car comes with 16" wheels standard, especially with all of the article information that is out there. As pointed out, the base MX-5 comes with a 16" wheel. At the end of the day, a larger wheel/tire package does cost the manufacturer more money. To meet the price point it makes perfect sense. Scion is willing to compromise in other ways to meet their price, hence the 17" standard. This can not be looked at as a baseline for Subaru's decision. I would prefer the 17" standard, but intend to buy the base car as I like cloth more then suede and leather, and I do not like the spoiler. The deciding factor will be if the lesser car has a smaller brake package. Then I will step up to the higher spec model. I do not care if it includes 16" wheels.
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I'd hit the smaller 16s if they still pack the same brakes as the rest. Wheels are easily swapped. In fact, unless the car brakes demand or the trim is already way up high, there's no need to put anything other than steel 16s. Cheap 17 alloys from factory just don't justify the mark up price.
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