2013 FRS engine failure at 62k

[ermax]

Yeah, how was the oil? Was it leaking or burning? Any idea what CALID (rom version) you were on?

[speedy racer]

Originally Posted by 8RZ

Was the oil level good?

Oil light never came on, but it was half quart low. I drive a lot highway miles pushing my engine hard but these cars are made to run at high RPMs. I do have my RPM limit t 7k. I just hope Toyota honor my warranty, that was the only reason I kept the car after having the CEL issue. Do anybody else on here that had CEL issue have engine failure?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by speedy racer

Oil light never came on, but it was half quart low. I drive a lot highway miles pushing my engine hard but these cars are made to run at high RPMs. I do have my RPM limit t 7k. I just hope Toyota honor my warranty, that was the only reason I kept the car after having the CEL issue. Do anybody else on here that had CEL issue have engine failure?

"CEL issue" doesn't mean anything. What was the problem that caused the CEL?
The most common reason that warranty is denied is no proof of oil changes or inspection that shows low oil as the probable cause of failure. That is why everybody is asking about the oil level. If oil level was good and you can prove it was changed then the warranty should be no problem.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by speedy racer

Oil light never came on, but it was half quart low. I drive a lot highway miles pushing my engine hard but these cars are made to run at high RPMs. I do have my RPM limit t 7k. I just hope Toyota honor my warranty, that was the only reason I kept the car after having the CEL issue. Do anybody else on here that had CEL issue have engine failure?

1/2qt low shouldn't lead to rod bearing failure. You will need to elaborate on what "CEL" issue you are referring to.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ermax

1/2q low shouldn't lead to rod bearing failure. You will need to elaborate on what "CEL" issue you are referring to.

If it is the number 4 bearing then it is the common failure mode. Be willing to bet a tear down shows silicone chunks in the oil channels.

[speedy racer]

Originally Posted by ermax

1/2qt low shouldn't lead to rod bearing failure. You will need to elaborate on what "CEL" issue you are referring to.

My 2013 was one those first FRS with the CEL issues with the ECU and Toyota gave me the factory 7 year warranty because I was concern about future problems down the road.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by speedy racer

My 2013 was one those first FRS with the CEL issues with the ECU and Toyota gave me the factory 7 year warranty because I was concern about future problems down the road.

This one?


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...1&d=1378232133

[Shibby]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

"CEL issue" doesn't mean anything. What was the problem that caused the CEL?
The most common reason that warranty is denied is no proof of oil changes or inspection that shows low oil as the probable cause of failure. That is why everybody is asking about the oil level. If oil level was good and you can prove it was changed then the warranty should be no problem.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If it is the number 4 bearing then it is the common failure mode. Be willing to bet a tear down shows silicone chunks in the oil channels.

These are exactly what happened to my 2013 BRZ with 55k. I showed proof of proper oil level and oil change receipts. It was silicon blocking oil to bearing 4 but was most likely caused by a repair done by the dealership to fix the timing cover leak I was experiencing. Since I was able to prove that the car was taken care of, they didn't argue with me about warrantying the work. Just food for thought.

[ajc209]

As Tcoat mentioned, RTV blocking the smaller oil feed is quite common.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ajc209

As Tcoat mentioned, RTV blocking the smaller oil feed is quite common.

To be clear it is a common failure mode on engines that blew a bearing not necessarily a common occurrence.
There are about 25 recorded cases (on this forum) of bearing failure and maybe 7 or 8 of those were known to be the plugged oil channels. Don't want everybody with a 13 to think the sky is falling when the known numbers are actually miniscule. Doesn't make thing better when you fall into that minority though.

[ajc209]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

To be clear it is a common failure mode on engines that blew a bearing not necessarily a common occurrence.
There are about 25 recorded cases (on this forum) of bearing failure and maybe 7 or 8 of those were known to be the plugged oil channels. Don't want everybody with a 13 to think the sky is falling when the known numbers are actually miniscule. Doesn't make thing better when you fall into that minority though.

Lol yes common cause of spun bearings in a stock setup. Mines a 2012..

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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ajc209

Lol yes common cause of spun bearings in a stock setup. Mines a 2012..

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[DandoX]

Man I'm sorry to here that bud. Just curious what oil brand/weight you where running and how many miles in-between the typical oil changes?
I'm pulling for ya that the dealership honors the warranty.

[BRZnut]

Sorry to hear. Keep us updated. Yes these engines are supposed to be able to be "pushed hard" as you state but they do fail because of oil starvation.(I wish Subaru would extend the warrantee on the 2013's because of the silicone issue blocking oil flow and fess up to the issue)