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Old 02-04-2021, 03:51 PM   #99
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This is for a T56, but they are usually an offset linkage that is in a 'L' shape. The key to making these things feel like the original is just using quality components, so there isn't odd torque because of the extended lever arm that causes twisting or bending. If done poorly, these can feel sloppy or less direct. If designed poorly then any slop or wiggle room just gets compounded.


I doubt this setup would be compatible with aftermarket shifters like the IRP short throw shifter, but we will see.


I’d be sad to have to ditch the IRP but there’s no way it would work having the trans moved back 4” (unless you break out the sawzall and drill but then your center console is going to need a facelift).
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Old 02-04-2021, 04:21 PM   #100
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Especially when I can snag a k24a for $1500ish.
That seems pricey to me, the going rate in my area is around 700 depending on millage.
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That seems pricey to me, the going rate in my area is around 700 depending on millage.
That’s ab what I’ve seen, cheapest I’ve seen is $795. Most I’ve seen is $1495. I err on the expensive prices.
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That seems pricey to me, the going rate in my area is around 700 depending on millage.
K24A comes in several varieties. Are we talking about the TSX K24A2? USDM or JDM? The price depends on the miles and condition and how dressed the engine is. Have you seen a fully dressed TSX motor with sub-80k miles and no broken components around $700? I’m sure that could be the case.
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K24A comes in several varieties. Are we talking about the TSX K24A2? USDM or JDM? The price depends on the miles and condition and how dressed the engine is. Have you seen a fully dressed TSX motor with sub-80k miles and no broken components around $700? I’m sure that could be the case.
Usually out of the TSX mostly dressed, millage is typical for age, 130-150K. If I was going that route I'd be doing a disassemble and inspection and bringing my borescope to peak under the skirt before buying.
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You can get a good condition K24A2 for ~$700 no problem if you shop around. Can't say that about most other desirable engines...
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In the end, the difference between $750 and $1500 still isn’t a big deal in the total price of the swap. The extra $300-750 is maybe 5% of the total cost.
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I’d be sad to have to ditch the IRP but there’s no way it would work having the trans moved back 4” (unless you break out the sawzall and drill but then your center console is going to need a facelift).
The kswap moves the trans back about 4 inches. With the IRP shifter it deletes the shifter carrier and we are just left with the shift rod, which was more than 4”, I feel like it was probably 6-8”. We should be able to run the IRP shifter with just a shortened shift rod. The shifter would stay in the same location and still be bolted to the chassis. I’m meeting with K Power soon to let them use my 2017 to check the CANBUS, I’ll ask some questions while I’m there.
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The kswap moves the trans back about 4 inches. With the IRP shifter it deletes the shifter carrier and we are just left with the shift rod, which was more than 4”, I feel like it was probably 6-8”. We should be able to run the IRP shifter with just a shortened shift rod. The shifter would stay in the same location and still be bolted to the chassis. I’m meeting with K Power soon to let them use my 2017 to check the CANBUS, I’ll ask some questions while I’m there.
This pleases me. Thank you for this info!
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The kswap moves the trans back about 4 inches. With the IRP shifter it deletes the shifter carrier and we are just left with the shift rod, which was more than 4”, I feel like it was probably 6-8”. We should be able to run the IRP shifter with just a shortened shift rod. The shifter would stay in the same location and still be bolted to the chassis. I’m meeting with K Power soon to let them use my 2017 to check the CANBUS, I’ll ask some questions while I’m there.

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That part isn’t what would be shortened, there’s a rod bolted to that, the rod goes from there to the actual shifter. If your able to, measure that rod and it will tell us if the IRP is able to be used. From what I remember, and from pictures online that rod is well over 4” long and looks like it could easily be shortened for the kswap.
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That part isn’t what would be shortened, there’s a rod bolted to that, the rod goes from there to the actual shifter. If your able to, measure that rod and it will tell us if the IRP is able to be used. From what I remember, and from pictures online that rod is well over 4” long and looks like it could easily be shortened for the kswap.
Yeah you are right, it has been quite a few years since I did my IRP install I thought that came off with the carrier. I would imagine the part KPower sells to get the stock shifter to work, should also work with the IRP. In the case of the shift rod extension, I think it would be easier to just make a new one. The OE one looks cast, I don't think I would want to weld it. It is about 9" center to center.
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Yeah you are right, it has been quite a few years since I did my IRP install I thought that came off with the carrier. I would imagine the part KPower sells to get the stock shifter to work, should also work with the IRP. In the case of the shift rod extension, I think it would be easier to just make a new one. The OE one looks cast, I don't think I would want to weld it. It is about 9" center to center.
Thanks for the measurement, I know they said they will be creating a new shifter carrier so I assume that would come with a new rod as well. I’m betting we will be able to use any shifter that would normally work in a stock 86.
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Thanks for the measurement, I know they said they will be creating a new shifter carrier so I assume that would come with a new rod as well. I’m betting we will be able to use any shifter that would normally work in a stock 86.
I'm pretty sure you are right. In my mind, I was imagining something more propriety looking like the Mazworks, which for all I know, could be used with stock shifters or short shifters:



It has been a while since my transmission was out of the car or since I had a look at a picture, but you are right. It looks like they could make a custom carrier without welding or anything that accomodates the stock shifter or something like the IRP shifter. Specifically, this long rod could be replaced with a shorter rod:

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