New internal combustion car sales to be banned in UK in 15 years

[Captain Snooze]

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-...-in-2035/41786

[Irace86.2.0]

Lots can happen in fifteen years, but this is interesting to see.

[reni]

I see one of two things happening.

1. As the deadline approaches, car manufacturers will complain they're not ready yet, so the government will push it out another 10-15 years

2. After Brexit nobody in the UK will be able to afford a new car, so the law won't matter anyway

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by reni

I see one of two things happening.

1. As the deadline approaches, car manufacturers will complain they're not ready yet, so the government will push it out another 10-15 years

2. After Brexit nobody in the UK will be able to afford a new car, so the law won't matter anyway

1. Better start building your gigafactories. VAG, Tesla and many others are already doing it, or those who don’t will have to buy batteries from other car/battery manufacturers. All manufacturers have battery technology in production, so it is just a matter of capacity and resources than developing the technology, especially since Tesla has released past patents, so that won’t be an excuse.

[Tomm]

I'm interested to see if any changes will be made to the grid infrastructure in the next 15 years. Considering it takes at least 10 years to build a bwr or pwr plant, they better get on it.

[why?]

if anyone uses current battery technology in 5 years never mind 15, then electric cars are a useless pipe dream.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by why?

if anyone uses current battery technology in 5 years never mind 15, then electric cars are a useless pipe dream.

Need to change the perspective away from the North American idea of distances and range when considering battery charge life in the UK.


The currant range of electric cars is 150 to 300 miles.


Great Briton is only 300 miles wide and 600 miles long. It is about the same size as Florida. This puts most of the country within reach with only 2 to 4 charges at current ranges.


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The average American drives 30 miles a day. The average in the UK is 10 miles. People just simply live closer to their work places. They also have a much more effective public rail system that covers most of the country.


The USA has 838 vehicles per 1,000 people. The UK has 471. This is almost half as many vehicles per capita which is significant.


So, even considering variables such as people that travel to mainland Europe, traffic flow (it can be horrid) and charging infrastructure an all EV mandate is viable there even at todays levels. It will no doubt be much, much better in 15 years.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by why?

if anyone uses current battery technology in 5 years never mind 15, then electric cars are a useless pipe dream.

Bingo

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by why?

if anyone uses current battery technology in 5 years never mind 15, then electric cars are a useless pipe dream.

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Bingo

Care to elaborate? I don’t see how this statement makes any sense.

[Lantanafrs2]

Maybe Nissans variable stroke engine will change their minds lol

[Lantanafrs2]

The shift to evs will be gradual but pervasive imo. I dont believe ice will be dead in 15 yrs but the advantages of evs, particularly from a manufacturing standpoint are hard to ignore.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by why?

if anyone uses current battery technology in 5 years never mind 15, then electric cars are a useless pipe dream.

this doesn't make any sense.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by soundman98

this doesn't make any sense.

I think what he means is that in 5 years we will be using the technology of that time and not current(today's) tech.

The problem with current battery tech is it is advancing so fast it is obsoleting itself and leaving behind no support in a very short amount of time. Unless you have a custom solution made and continue to contract it to be built, or the industry can support a standardized battery. Our 48V/30AH that we where using is already obsolete with no plans to support it from the manufacturer. We hadn't even finished evaluating it yet

Now we are forced to adapt a solution that we believe(fingers crossed) may continue to be supported in some capacity even though it is not very ideal for our application.

[Leonardo]

The energy density of batteries is going to increase. And in time, their cost will decrease. I imagine that in 15 years we will have some great batteries. We are not there yet.