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Old 06-03-2012, 02:18 AM   #15
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Just how much and how hard would it be to replace the stock frs headlights with the brz headlights
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:22 AM   #16
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Doesn't the FR-S come with keyless entry?
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:38 AM   #17
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Just how much and how hard would it be to replace the stock frs headlights with the brz headlights
It could be more difficult than you'd think. The headlamps are one of the first things they assemble at the factory so that kind of worries me. Besides, I would want the Toyota 86 style headlamps anyway. Not to mention, the BRZ's turn signal indicator is a part of the headlamp.
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The FR-S is not that much cheaper. And there are plenty of Scion dealers adding $4k markups.

Even a $22k 2013 mustang has HIDS and LED daytime running lights...Come on Scion...They will fix this in the 2014 model year.

The FR-S needs HIDs, better stock stereo and the seat materials from the BRZ premium at the $25k price.
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Doesn't the FR-S come with keyless entry?
It does but the terminology is kind of tricky. You still have to get the key out and press a button to unlock the doors with the FR-S. But with the BRZ Limited, you can just walk up to it and open the door and press the engine start button. You never have to get the key out - you just have to have it on you. This is not a big deal but it is something you can get used to and it's nice when your hands are full.
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:46 AM   #20
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The FR-S is not that much cheaper. And there are plenty of Scion dealers adding $4k markups.

Even a $22k 2013 mustang has HIDS and LED daytime running lights...Come on Scion...They will fix this in the 2014 model year.
I hope so. There is an official picture of a white Scion FR-S with the HID/LED headlamps floating around so it's possible!

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And a nicer optional navigation system.
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i havent seen a brz without a markup since may20... so , just for that i dont like subaru
That sucks its the opposite here.
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As I keep telling my friends:

Get the BRZ if youre looking for a daily driver replacement. They FR-S, while it is a good daily, is more suited to be the weekend/track car.

Quite frankly, if you're more worried about a trunk liner then the driving dynamics, youre looking at the wrong car entirely.
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if there was only one company behind this car... this wouldnt be a problem =(
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As I keep telling my friends:

Get the BRZ if youre looking for a daily driver replacement. They FR-S, while it is a good daily, is more suited to be the weekend/track car.

Quite frankly, if you're more worried about a trunk liner then the driving dynamics, youre looking at the wrong car entirely.
but that's part of the problem. although the BRZ offers some desirable amenities, its looks is not for everyone. i, for 1, find the front bumper, rear spoiler, and fake side vents of the BRZ ugly. so basically, i have to choose between a car who's exterior is more attractive to me while the interior being less attractive, or vice versa. if scion would only offer a-la-cart optioning for the FRS, they would make a lot more buyers happy while making additional profit from the options at the same time. i would love me an FRS with HID and dual climate...
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As I keep telling my friends:

Get the BRZ if youre looking for a daily driver replacement. They FR-S, while it is a good daily, is more suited to be the weekend/track car.

Quite frankly, if you're more worried about a trunk liner then the driving dynamics, youre looking at the wrong car entirely.
I only added the trunk liner to the list for completion/accuracy. I doubt I would bother buying it if I got the FR-S. However, I DO care about the things I touch every day (no perv) like the seats and e-brake. And I DO care about my night-time visibility. And I DO care about styling. And I DO want navigation and satellite radio built in. I can live without the other things but they would certainly add some convenience/value to it. But don't give me that crap about buying a luxury car instead. Obviously the way it drives is most important to me. But this is NOT a Lotus Elise or a race car; it's a Toyota/Subaru so it should have modern features and comforts.
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if there was only one company behind this car... this wouldnt be a problem =(
not really. if toyota would sell their version in the U.S. the same way as they do in japan and europe then more U.S. buyers will be appeased.
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but that's part of the problem. although the BRZ offers some desirable amenities, its looks is not for everyone. i, for 1, find the front bumper, rear spoiler, and fake side vents of the BRZ ugly. so basically, i have to choose between a car who's exterior is more attractive to me while the interior being less attractive, or vice versa. if scion would only offer a-la-cart optioning for the FRS, they would make a lot more buyers happy while making additional profit from the options at the same time. i would love me an FRS with HID and dual climate...
And you and I are not the only ones. My brother also wanted the 86/FR-S when he first saw it. He doesn't like the BRZ styling either. But when he found out the final specs and realized how cheap Scion was, he changed his mind. He said he refuses to buy a Scion now and is looking at the new Genesis Coupe instead (not that I would ever want/recommend one). So I wonder how many sales Scion will lose because of their insistence to not sell a higher trim and more options. Or maybe they will surprise everyone and change soon?
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not really. if toyota would sell their version in the U.S. the same way as they do in japan and europe then more U.S. buyers will be appeased.
yeah true, i wonder why the US has to have scion =.=
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