Thinking about switching from BMW 328i to Scion FR-S

[Fishbed77]

In the stop and go traffic, I switch to AT and turn on the music while MT drivers are struggling with the clutch and stick shift.

I drive in stop and go city traffic every day with a MT. In fact, most drivers in the world do.

If you are struggling, you are the problem. Not the transmission.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by mrg666

I switch to AT and turn on the music while MT drivers are struggling with the clutch and stick shift.

Struggling? Odd.... that is usually a problem with the operator, not the transmission. Every vehicle I own is a stickshift and I drive through traffic everyday just fine.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Every auto owner on a 'sporty' car forum I've ever seen:

BUT ITS SOOOO HAAAAARD TO DRIVE A MT IN TRAFFIC...

Dude, it's cool. Nobody is asking you to make excuses as to why you bought the auto. Buy the auto and enjoy it, that's fine. We don't need to hear about the time your left foot spontaneously amputated from pressing a pedal down in traffic.

[dattran86]

hahaha exactly.

every AT guy get so defensive and come up with every reason why its easier to live with an Auto.

imo, AT might be faster or shift quicker, But nothing beat the connection between the driver, 3 pedals and a 6th speed gear box. I dont want the car to do everything for me I want to work for it.

PS: I daily my car 3 hours everyday in stop and go traffic for the past 4 years with a MT, Not a single problem

[FX86]

what if mrg666 trolled everyone and got this thread derailed into the age old argument of AT vs MT

[Summerwolf]

OP, don't do it. They suck.


There /endthread.

[ToyotaFan84]

OP should stuck to luxury cars.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FX86

what if mrg666 trolled everyone and got this thread derailed into the age old argument of AT vs MT

Nah. His post history shows no sign of trollage.

[FX86]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Nah. His post history shows no sign of trollage.

maybe he watched south park recently and got inspired

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by ToyotaFan84

OP should stuck to luxury cars.

Based on his interests I think you are right.

[8R6]

driving in the parking lot we call the 405 fwy here in socal, i'm equally annoyed by the traffic regardless of whether im driving my frs with manual or my wife's ct200.

[Leonardo]

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[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Watch Me Run

Has this been attempted? I remember on another forum, 6gc.net, there was a thread about swapping a Camry final drive into a MT celica and it dropped the revs from 3500 rpm to 3200 at 80 mph. I know it's easier on that platform tho because largerly it's influenced by previous engineering, like the 5s-fe was pretty similar throughout it's various generations and decades but with upgrades and improvements throughout its lifecycle for power and emission standards.

I didn't realize that the swap on this one was possible with a auto tranny. If I could be so rude to ask for the thread to that one? I do plan on reading it extensively.

People have swapped in the final drive from a MT to the AT to get some of the speed back, I never looked into it but I believe the LSD is the same on both cars and just the final drive is different, I think it'd be possible to swap the AT into the MT...

Quick skimming the first thread and the link inside of it, if you can find an IS300 LSD it sounds perfect for you:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45217

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54054

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27647

[Adam_L]

Originally Posted by 8R6

driving in the parking lot we call the 405 fwy here in socal, i'm equally annoyed by the traffic regardless of whether im driving my frs with manual or my wife's ct200.

Traffic = that is the #1 reason why I don't want to move to a big city (bigger city). I love my open roads , cars in front of me are just no fun. I'm trying to quantify an actual cost of having to be in traffic for "x" amount of hours per year , versus no traffic (always flowing along in motion).