Problem filling car with gas

[5hairpins]

Anybody encountered issues getting gas in their car? The problem started about a year ago but seemed to be related to the gas pump used. Some pumps worked without issue, others would not work unless I slowly filled the tank.

Fast forward about 9 months and the issue got much worse. No pump would work without stopping the pump several times during a fill-up. I am not using my twin as frequently now, due to moving to the country and purchasing a pickup. This means I am only filling up maybe once a month. The last two times I filled up, it was close to 30 minutes fighting with the pump just to get gas in the car.

I have taken the car in for service and have been told that it is the Charcoal Canister that is the problem. I have less than 50K miles on my 2013 FR-S so this seems to be an odd diagnosis to me. What are everyone else's thoughts?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by 5hairpins

Anybody encountered issues getting gas in their car? The problem started about a year ago but seemed to be related to the gas pump used. Some pumps worked without issue, others would not work unless I slowly filled the tank.

Fast forward about 9 months and the issue got much worse. No pump would work without stopping the pump several times during a fill-up. I am not using my twin as frequently now, due to moving to the country and purchasing a pickup. This means I am only filling up maybe once a month. The last two times I filled up, it was close to 30 minutes fighting with the pump just to get gas in the car.

I have taken the car in for service and have been told that it is the Charcoal Canister that is the problem. I have less than 50K miles on my 2013 FR-S so this seems to be an odd diagnosis to me. What are everyone else's thoughts?

There was a history of the rubber in the fill tube collapsing with some of the early 13s. I will try to dig up the threads for you.


Edit - That was easy:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54445
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61043
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59616

[BRZdart17]

It sounds like a problem with the gas tank venting, I've never had that problem in a vehicle, put I suppose too much pressure build-up could shut off the gas pump?

Just looked, lots of stuff on youtube about this problem...

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by 5hairpins

Anybody encountered issues getting gas in their car? The problem started about a year ago but seemed to be related to the gas pump used. Some pumps worked without issue, others would not work unless I slowly filled the tank.

Fast forward about 9 months and the issue got much worse. No pump would work without stopping the pump several times during a fill-up. I am not using my twin as frequently now, due to moving to the country and purchasing a pickup. This means I am only filling up maybe once a month. The last two times I filled up, it was close to 30 minutes fighting with the pump just to get gas in the car.

I have taken the car in for service and have been told that it is the Charcoal Canister that is the problem. I have less than 50K miles on my 2013 FR-S so this seems to be an odd diagnosis to me. What are everyone else's thoughts?

My MR2 does this. Charcoal canister was the answer I have found/keep getting but I have just lived with it so far so cant confirm. I would say 50K miles is a bit low for that to be the cause but there are always faulty products

[5hairpins]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

There was a history of the rubber in the fill tube collapsing with some of the early 13s. I will try to dig up the threads for you.


Edit - That was easy:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54445
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61043
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59616

Unfortunately my fill tube is not the issue, they ran a camera down it and it was not collapsed. The tech was quite surprised when I asked and mentioned the early 13's (mine is 738) have had this issue. He also mentioned that there is an active TSB for the fill tube. Thanks for the threads, I tried searching but none of those threads popped up in my search.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by 5hairpins

Unfortunately my fill tube is not the issue, they ran a camera down it and it was not collapsed. The tech was quite surprised when I asked and mentioned the early 13's (mine is 738) have had this issue. He also mentioned that there is an active TSB for the fill tube. Thanks for the threads, I tried searching but none of those threads popped up in my search.

Well if that has been ruled out then it is probably the canister just as the tech said. Seems odd it would happen with so few miles but god only knows what could have got caught up in it. Like the damned spiders in propane fittings! Why the hell do they like it in there so much?

[Vampyre]

I have this problem at certain gas stations. It seems some gas nozzles with the spring around them will be just the right size to block the hole in the tank, and I think it triggers the pump to think the tank is full. At my local Costco, I have to make sure I don't put the nozzle all the way in. I back it about maybe a 1/4 in.

[5hairpins]

Originally Posted by Vampyre

I have this problem at certain gas stations. It seems some gas nozzles with the spring around them will be just the right size to block the hole in the tank, and I think it triggers the pump to think the tank is full. At my local Costco, I have to make sure I don't put the nozzle all the way in. I back it about maybe a 1/4 in.

For the first 9 months of the issue, backing out the nozzle a bit usually worked.
After the problem got worse, I pulled the nozzle out a little more and ended up with gas all over my shoes. It is a very fine line so learn from me and don't pull out the nozzle more than the 1/4 inch.

[Wes]

same here its gotten pretty bad for me too.. 2013 frs

been reading old threads, but idk how i should go about fixing it.. lol im sure stealership will charge stealership price since im at like 60k miles

[Milhouse86]

Originally Posted by 5hairpins

For the first 9 months of the issue, backing out the nozzle a bit usually worked.

After the problem got worse, I pulled the nozzle out a little more and ended up with gas all over my shoes. It is a very fine line so learn from me and don't pull out the nozzle more than the 1/4 inch.

Learning how to pull out properly always takes practice! 😉


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by 5hairpins

For the first 9 months of the issue

Originally Posted by Milhouse86

Learning how to pull out properly always takes practice! 😉


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And coincidentally enough improper pulling out can result in an issue after 9 months.

[ktBonefish]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And coincidentally enough improper pulling out can result in an issue after 9 months.

A much more expensive one than problems at the fuel pump provide

[guybo]

@5hairpins do you ever top off when you gas up? Has the nozzle ever failed to click off on its own and spilled out? It only takes one time. Even once can cause probs with the evap system and the canister. What you describe is the classic symptoms.

If you are not getting a CEL [yet] then you can either live with the PITA of filling up (it'll get worse) or just fix it. It tends to be expensive although I don't know how it is for this car.

[ssworks]

Originally Posted by ktBonefish

A much more expensive one than problems at the fuel pump provide

At least 18 years more expensive.

But i had this issue with one of my cars and the solution will get even more puns, i use to just put the tip in about an inch or two and half click the gas nozzle so its not on full blast but this requires your attention at the pump because you will need to hold the nuzzle.


And let the puns begin