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Old 07-21-2022, 11:37 AM   #1
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Old 07-21-2022, 12:11 PM   #2
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So, spoiler alert, for once the answer isn't Miata.
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So, spoiler alert, for once the answer isn't Miata.

Not a completely unfair comparison, but the results were pretty much to be expected.

TBH I'm just glad Mazda hasn't decided to completely pull the plug on the Miata given the direction the company has been going so far.
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Old 07-21-2022, 02:58 PM   #4
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Love the Miata, just love the 86 a bit more

Its a little sad that Mazda sought to address the body roll problem with the 2022 models but apparently didnt do a great job. They should stop futzing around and just include stiffer roll bars on the brembo/bbs package.

Also its kind of perplexing that Mazda built a DI 2.0L engine with 13:1 CR that revs to 7500 rpm but cant hit 200 hp.

200 hp, 2400 lbs Miata with sportier suspension would be amazing.
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Old 07-21-2022, 04:09 PM   #5
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I remember reading the MX-5/86 comparison in evo magazine at least a year ago and the 86 took that one, so it's no surprise the GR86 also took it
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Love the Miata, just love the 86 a bit more

Its a little sad that Mazda sought to address the body roll problem with the 2022 models but apparently didnt do a great job. They should stop futzing around and just include stiffer roll bars on the brembo/bbs package.

Also its kind of perplexing that Mazda built a DI 2.0L engine with 13:1 CR that revs to 7500 rpm but cant hit 200 hp.

200 hp, 2400 lbs Miata with sportier suspension would be amazing.
Im sure they can hit 200hp but maybe it will have a torque dip
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Im sure they can hit 200hp but maybe it will have a torque dip
And still have that ridiculous body roll.
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Im sure they can hit 200hp but maybe it will have a torque dip
Mazda says they left the body roll for more fun at slower speeds, maybe they should add a torque dip for the top end drama Torque dip vtec, yo!
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Mazda says they left the body roll for more fun at slower speeds, maybe they should add a torque dip for the top end drama Torque dip vtec, yo!
lol.more fun. More like is this little fucker gonna tip over or not?
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lol.more fun. More like is this little fucker gonna tip over or not?
Haha apparently that's the joy of it. I mean we all know top-heavy minivans are the epitome of handling fun.
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Mazda says they left the body roll for more fun at slower speeds, maybe they should add a torque dip for the top end drama Torque dip vtec, yo!
The torque dip should balance out the roll.

Hit the torque dip at peak roll and it'll slow down enough that it'll give the impression of levelling off...thus reducing the roll!

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I wonder what the next gen Miata will bring.
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I wonder what the next gen Miata will bring.
Apparently a hybrid. I know. Makes me want to throw up also 👍
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It kinda has to, no? Mazda will go out of business if they don't start electrifying their lineup.
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