BRZ and FR-S Sales Numbers Thread

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

We had the choice in Long Beach to decide if we wanted numbers or something more generic and the group decision was to all have them say "1 of 86" so they are all the same.

Well that explains why I have seen at least 6 people state that they each had "the very first FRS sold in North America". Some must take that 1 of 86 plate and believe it is sequential. In all fairness if you didn't know the whole thing and just saw the plate you could think that.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Well that explains why I have seen at least 6 people state that they each had "the very first FRS sold in North America". Some must take that 1 of 86 plate and believe it is sequential. In all fairness if you didn't know the whole thing and just saw the plate you could think that.

The first one actually delivered in the US belongs to @Pekingduck if I recall the order correctly (Yep, here's the story). There is a thread on here somewhere that documents them.

The difficulty is that Scion did a great job with the First 86 promotion, but not so much on the follow-up. For example, the numbered "bling" we received (a carbon license plate frame, a Pen, a couple of other things) were numbered (I have #3) but it doesn't mean anything.

We don't know the order that people were selected, and some of us were "alternates" picked after the first person selected did not make the $500 deposit required to hold the car. The car VIN doesn't tell you anything since they were pulled off the line based on color/trans preference and what was on the first ships over. They were not built sequentially.

They are not even really the first 86 cars, just the first 86 delivered in the US. There are early purchasers that were not a First 86 that have lower VINs. Mine is a 2xx serial numbers, but there are others that have lower, and some have VINs in the 1xxx range.

I suppose those of us that made the trip could have randomly drawn numbers but in the end after presented with all the information we decided as a group that since the only two numbers anyone would really want was 1 or 86, we would all get the same.

I have the first one delivered/registered in Georgia, by about 24 hours. There is a second Georgia First 86 as well, but I beat him to the dealer.

[NeedsWayMorePower]

It may sound selfish, but I'm glad sales have fallen off.

I really don't to see the same car I'm driving on every corner, or even every day.

[LucidMomentum]

Originally Posted by NeedsWayMorePower

It may sound selfish, but I'm glad sales have fallen off.

I really don't to see the same car I'm driving on every corner, or even every day.

I'd prefer enough of them on the road that I don't have to explain what it is to someone at every parking lot, however.

[Pekingduck]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

The first one actually delivered in the US belongs t @Pekingduck if I recall the order correctly (Yep, here's the story). There is a thread on here somewhere that documents them.

The difficulty is that Scion did a great job with the First 86 promotion, but not so much on the follow-up. For example, the numbered "bling" we received (a carbon license plate frame, a Pen, a couple of other things) were numbered (I have #3) but it doesn't mean anything.

We don't know the order that people were selected, and some of us were "alternates" picked after the first person selected did not make the $500 deposit required to hold the car. The car VIN doesn't tell you anything since they were pulled off the line based on color/trans preference and what was on the first ships over. They were not built sequentially.

They are not even really the first 86 cars, just the first 86 delivered in the US. There are early purchasers that were not a First 86 that have lower VINs. Mine is a 2xx serial numbers, but there are others that have lower, and some have VINs in the 1xxx range.

I suppose those of us that made the trip could have randomly drawn numbers but in the end after presented with all the information we decided as a group that since the only two numbers anyone would really want was 1 or 86, we would all get the same.

I have the first one delivered/registered in Georgia, by about 24 hours. There is a second Georgia First 86 as well, but I beat him to the dealer.

I was just lucky I got pick for the 86 promotion and the dealer I chose that was Longo, which is the bigger dealer in the United States. The promotion was great with all it swag item and I was happy with how they treated to whole situation. I talk to that vice president guy and even he knew the sales would drop off and say it just the nature of sports car and short term interest by the consumer.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by LucidMomentum

I'd prefer enough of them on the road that I don't have to explain what it is to someone at every parking lot, however.

With your modding you may have to explain what it is to other owners soon!
You sure won't get lost in the crowd though.

[Vracer111]

The sales numbers are not accurate...I picked up mine from the dealership on May 25, 2012 and it was not a First 86... There were more than 86 FR-S sold in May 2012...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Vracer111

The sales numbers are not accurate...I picked up mine from the dealership on May 25, 2012 and it was not a First 86... There were more than 86 FR-S sold in May 2012...

They may have applied yours and others against June sales just to maintain the 86 on paper for the first sales.

[Vracer111]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

They may have applied yours and others against June sales just to maintain the 86 on paper for the first sales.

I fully believe that is what they did, and that's why the sales numbers are not accurate. I know for a fact more than 86 FR-S were sold in May 2012...

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Vracer111

I fully believe that is what they did, and that's why the sales numbers are not accurate. I know for a fact more than 86 FR-S were sold in May 2012...

I believe any inaccuracy is just that one month and as @Tcoat suggests it was made up in June.

My guess is the dealers just didn't report the sale until June 1, or whatever the 30 day period was that the First 86 were supposed to have theirs.

I know in the case of my dealer, they were almost sold my car to someone else and planned to give me the second car they had coming in two weeks later. (I had a lot of issues with the dealer, who had no interest in the whole First 86 program but Scion wouldn't let me change dealers, long story). I'm sure they would have not reported the first sale until June.

[Rampage]

Updated for April:

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Month    BRZ MTD    BRZ YTD    BRZ ALL    FRS MTD    FRS YTD    FRS ALL    TOTAL
May-12   271        271        271        86         86         86         357
Jun-12   818        1089       1089       2684       2770       2770       3859
Jul-12   498        1587       1587       1649       4419       4419       6006
Aug-12   623        2210       2210       1913       6332       6332       8542
Sep-12   508        2718       2718       1133       7465       7465       10183
Oct-12   402        3120       3120       1107       8572       8572       11692
Nov-12   527        3647       3647       1350       9922       9922       13569
Dec-12   497        4144       4144       1495       11417      11417      15561
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan-13   463        463        4607       1443       1443       12860      17467
Feb-13   420        883        5027       1369       2812       14229      19256
Mar-13   905        1788       5932       1828       4640       16057      21989
Apr-13   812        2600       6744       1629       6269       17686      24430
May-13   679        3279       7423       1937       8206       19623      27046
Jun-13   789        4068       8212       1815       10021      21438      29650
Jul-13   706        4774       8918       1614       11635      23052      31970
Aug-13   868        5642       9786       1902       13537      24954      34740
Sep-13   704        6346       10490      1230       14767      26184      36674
Oct-13   780        7126       11270      1233       16000      27417      38687
Nov-13   756        7882       12026      1298       17298      28715      40741
Dec-13   705        8587       12731      1029       18327      29744      42475
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan-14   592        592        13323      921        921        30665      43988
Feb-14   617        1209       13940      1040       1961       31705      45645
Mar-14   857        2066       14797      1467       3428       33172      47969
Apr-14   820        2886       15617      1445       4873       34617      50234
May-14   854        3740       16471      1662       6535       36279      52750
Jun-14   557        4297       17028      1128       7663       37407      54435
Jul-14   724        5021       17752      1171       8834       38578      56330
Aug-14   720        5741       18472      1429       10263      40007      58479
Sep-14   506        6247       18978      920        11183      40927      59905
Oct-14   435        6682       19413      1111       12294      42038      61451
Nov-14   408        7090       19821      935        13229      42973      62794
Dec-14   416        7506       20237      834        14063      43817      64044
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan-15   330        330        20567      746        746        44553      65120
Feb-15   334        664        20901      806        1552       45359      66260
Mar-15   495        1159       21396      893        2445       46252      67648
Apr-15   494        1653       21890     1026        3471       47278      69168 


[tennisfreak]

Sales skid still underway.

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Sales skid still underway.

Just like every other small sports car that has debuted in the past 20 years.


Sent from Tandy 400

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by tennisfreak

Sales skid still underway.

Originally Posted by Quentin

Just like every other small sports car that has debuted in the past 20 years.


Sent from Tandy 400

And still outselling every other imported sports car in the US by a pretty big margin. That is especially true if you count the BRZ and FR-S as one car, which they actually are.