Help With Brake Job Shopping List

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Agree.

Ferodo DS2500 are a good "aggressive" street/canyon/autox pad that feels pretty good, dusts a lot, and can take a little heat. I still wouldn't track them on 200tw tires. There are slightly cheaper, slightly more street oriented pads that would probably do the trick, but if you're set on the Ferodos that's okay

I just finished off a set of DS2500's The fronts anyways. I was doing well at first but by the end of day one they declined. I've been sanding them between track days and babying them on track days. I did better with Hawk DTC 30 and 60. I just had a set of DS3.12 arrive today. I don't know what DS2500 they would be like on AutoX

Day 1

[Muskoka800]

Take Toyota’s service manual requirements with a ‘grain of salt’. They play it safe and replace many items which may not be at end of life. That’s why dealer serviced Toyotas last forever.
Regarding pads, consider Stoptech Sports for a great DD and occasional track day solution. I cannot comment on there autocross capabilities but do use them for DD-Lapping and am very satisfied. They last, don’t destroy rotors and they’re cheap!

[ruturaj001]

I use ferodo DS 2500 on track, I got mine on Amazon for pretty cheap. They do the job and have lasted 20 mins sessions for me. I am new to the track, first year, so my needs were not demanding, I am also on factory PS4 tires. I am not getting 200tw any soon though, may be 4S (or S5).

I am planning to get CSG CP pads next though, to compare the life, road and track performance etc. As per as I ahve heard they last longer (twice) even if they cost double and also perform better. So seems like it saves the job of changing them once.

For fluid I use Castrol SRF, it lasts longer (2x) and costs more (3-4x). I hate the bleeding job more than pad changes.

[Spuds]

Ordering OEM brake parts is a PITA apparently because all the sites seem to think there are 3 different parts that will fit unless you have a Subaru VIN and even then my guess is they are confused. Nobody seems to have mapped out what part numbers go to the US spec rotors, and the descriptions don't say anything about size, so I decided to order Centric instead.

As for the brake lines, there are apparently 3 options for 2013. Knowing build date seems to help, but then there are 2 options for rear lines on the same date. Took a chance on what seemed most likely based on similarity to the front PN. Idk it's $30.

I'll report on the PNs if it works I guess.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Ordering OEM brake parts is a PITA apparently because all the sites seem to think there are 3 different parts that will fit unless you have a Subaru VIN and even then my guess is they are confused. Nobody seems to have mapped out what part numbers go to the US spec rotors, and the descriptions don't say anything about size, so I decided to order Centric instead.

As for the brake lines, there are apparently 3 options for 2013. Knowing build date seems to help, but then there are 2 options for rear lines on the same date. Took a chance on what seemed most likely based on similarity to the front PN. Idk it's $30.

I'll report on the PNs if it works I guess.

Maybe go to a store?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Maybe go to a store?

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Maybe go to a store?

That is something I did not try. I didn't think AutoZone or NAPA would stock or order OEM Subaru/Toyota parts, it was my understanding that they would get an "equivalent" part, but usually at much greater cost than online distributors. Is my understanding incorrect?

This is specifically a problem with the Subaru/Toyota parts because they do not have good descriptions in some cases. If I wanted something "equivalent" I'd just hit up Rockauto or Amazon, which I did with the rotors. MSRP at a local dealership parts counter is way higher than what it costs online so I'd rather not go there if I don't need the part right away.

[autoracer86]

The oem pads kinda suck anyway. I found them to be pretty difficult to remove when pad swapping at the track and they can be noises at times. I did see others having the same issue on a Facebook thread awhile back.

I will be switching to a oem + pad for street usage at some stage

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Spuds

That is something I did not try. I didn't think AutoZone or NAPA would stock or order OEM Subaru/Toyota parts, it was my understanding that they would get an "equivalent" part, but usually at much greater cost than online distributors. Is my understanding incorrect?

This is specifically a problem with the Subaru/Toyota parts because they do not have good descriptions in some cases. If I wanted something "equivalent" I'd just hit up Rockauto or Amazon, which I did with the rotors. MSRP at a local dealership parts counter is way higher than what it costs online so I'd rather not go there if I don't need the part right away.

I've got a Toyota dealer that I like to buy parts from, if there's confusion on which part calling up one of their employees on the phone can help sort out the problem since they have more information then gets put on the generic website.

Ordering oem online and picking up at the dealer on the way home from work or over to work on the car has been aces. Prices have been completely in-line with buying non-oem parts online + shipping. Like, I might spend less then 5% more vs. say exedy or bosch or ngk.

I hate interacting with people too, but dealership parts counter people aren't working on commission, they've got access to a regional warehouse and whatever profit the owner targets and that's that.

They're geeks too, guy was excited to hand truck out my shortblock lol.

I learned this about 10 years ago buying Nissan parts when they had weird stuff in stock nobody else could get and were cheaper too. A couple dealers slap insane markups on their parts and I had one or two Subaru dealers require a Subaru VIN which I didn't have so I just went down the block to Toyota.

[Muskoka800]

Here in Ontario Canada I have found Toyota parts are about 60% of what the Subaru dealers ask, for the same part. That said, the Subi dealer has some items in inventory (likely due to parts crossing between Subi models) while Toyota dealers rely on overnight supply from the Toronto Parts Distribution Ctr.

[new2subaru]

I've had the Toyota dealership have to fly stuff in from CA more than once.

[Ultramaroon]

My Toyota dealership always has everything I need.

[Muskoka800]

Originally Posted by new2subaru

I've had the Toyota dealership have to fly stuff in from CA more than once.

Yes, over the past year or so Toyota Canada had a major parts inventory issue and many parts had to come from Cali. I’m told they were changing computer programs/system which led to stock shortfalls. I imagine those who required urgent repairs were pissed at the wait for parts.

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by Muskoka800

Yes, over the past year or so Toyota Canada had a major parts inventory issue and many parts had to come from Cali. I’m told they were changing computer programs/system which led to stock shortfalls. I imagine those who required urgent repairs were pissed at the wait for parts.

I haven't ordeerd in a long while. 4-5 years? I was ordering things like spare caliper bolts, wheel studs, etc and they had nothing in stock at my local. I can only imagine how it is now with the parts shortages.

Is your car ready for track yet? The break it done?