Toyota to scrap Scion brand, but FR-S will become a Toyota!

[KR-S]

I like the Auris name, but Toyota might just slap on the Matrix name on the iM assuming they do intend to change it, as the Matrix name was already established with the previous Corolla-based hatchback.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Turbo95eg6

Tell that to the guys who are already calling their cars "antiques" lol.

I have about 186 times!!!!!!!


The level of shear stupidity (not you Turb) this minor change to the car itself has brought on fascinates me in a train wreck sort of way.


The cars are not changing other than whatever the 17 brings and that would have happened no matter what badges were on it.


They are not going to change value one single cent because they have Scion badges. The brand is gone not the freakn' cars.


They are now and always have been Toyota/Subaru cars. Scion never built a single car. Not even once.


There are loads of 86s around the world already that have the same or even less features as the FRS. People comparing a top tier GT86 to an FRS and saying "look at all the things they get" just ignore the bottom trim levels entirely.


The bottom trim of the European 86 cost roughly the same as an FRS. The top trim ones cost almost $8,000 more. You guys that think you are going to get GT86 equipped cars for close to FRS prices are in for a world of disappointment.


All BRZs are not top trim cars either even though some seem to forget this.


All trims around the world be it 86, GT86, FRS or BRZ are the same fuckin' car people. Some just have a few extra things bolted on them. That does not make them better or worse, just different. Many, many people don't want all that crap.


Scion is just in North America and although it may shock some of you to know this cars are sold and used elsewhere in the world. The death of Scion means nothing to the rest of the world. The world preferences and purchases do not revolve around North America no matter what you were taught in school.


This is not the death of the 86. If the 86 dies it had nothing to do with the Scion badge. See above.


Come on people get your heads screwed on straight and think before you start spewing crap about now being "rare" or "collectors items". It is still just a cheap sports car made for the masses.

[Sosa]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Scionara

[miyoshi82]

Have they actually finished producing the last of the actual Scion FRS before they become Toyotas? I really want to buy a model from the current generation and this news really messes up my plans to buy a new one. I don't want to buy used either or MY 2017 refresh look.

[Dadhawk]

As I was catching up on the last 5 pages or so of this thread, it occurred to me that Toyota really missed an opportunity to shut down the Internet with car forum postings...

They should have announced they were closing down Scion, then an hour later announce they were rebranding all the cars EXCEPT the FRS as Toyota.

The FRS would be the halo car for Daihatsu in North America!

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by miyoshi82

Have they actually finished producing the last of the actual Scion FRS before they become Toyotas? I really want to buy a model from the current generation and this news really messes up my plans to buy a new one. I don't want to buy used either or MY 2017 refresh look.

Model changeover is usually early summer to late summer. They will be Scions until then. Without knowing what the refresh looks like without camo, I'd be hard pressed to decide right now. Wait until the refresh is shown.


Sent from Tandy 400

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by miyoshi82

Have they actually finished producing the last of the actual Scion FRS before they become Toyotas? I really want to buy a model from the current generation and this news really messes up my plans to buy a new one. I don't want to buy used either or MY 2017 refresh look.

THEY ARE THE SAME FREAKIN" CAR!!!! Just the badge changes.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by dnieves

Futile...................

I know.
I fail to understand how the basic concept that the car is just changing a badge is so hard to grasp. People seem to think that Scion made the damned things themselves.
Ya the 17s will be different but they would have been even if still Scion.

[FRSBRZGT86FAN]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I know.
I fail to understand how the basic concept that the car is just changing a badge is so hard to grasp. People seem to think that Scion made the damned things themselves.
Ya the 17s will be different but they would have been even if still Scion.

Seriously though.

I heard the only reason Scion got it and not Toyota in North America was specifically because Jack Hollis specifically vied for it to be part of the Scion brand because he knew enthusiasts would be all over it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FRSBRZGT86FAN

Seriously though.

I heard the only reason Scion got it and not Toyota in North America was specifically because Jack Hollis specifically vied for it to be part of the Scion brand because he knew enthusiasts would be all over it.

Don't know and don't care why Scion had it. It has always been a Toyota/Subaru bastard child that changed it's name to fit in in North America anyway. All Scions were Toyotas and always have been. Just like trying to say a 'Vette is not a GM because it has a Chevy badge on it.

[Turbo95eg6]

Originally Posted by miyoshi82

Have they actually finished producing the last of the actual Scion FRS before they become Toyotas? I really want to buy a model from the current generation and this news really messes up my plans to buy a new one. I don't want to buy used either or MY 2017 refresh look.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

THEY ARE THE SAME FREAKIN" CAR!!!! Just the badge changes.

lmao these I swear these trolls are now posting shit like this on purpose, about to give Tcoat a heart attack.

[Uplink]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

THEY ARE THE SAME FREAKIN" CAR!!!! Just the badge changes.

[Guru Woodman]

Last thing I've heard is that it is going to be the Daihatsu FR-S

[KR-S]

I'm not sure if this was already posted and I don't really feel like looking through several pages to find the exact link to determine if I'm not reposting it.

Even if I am though, here's to save some people the trouble of looking back anyway:

https://www.scion.com/faqs#scion_bra...sfer_to_toyota

I was hesitant on posting this link since everything is still early and things could change, but this is direct from the Scion website. Apparently, all Scion cars will retain their names and will remain monospec at least for the 2017 model year.