Aftermarket parts cannot VOID your warranty

[IceFyre13th]

Just to be clear, I am not a lawyer and no I wont stay at a Holiday Inn.

But, if you ever wondered if your CAI, Exhaust, LED's, UniChip, etc will void your warranty the simple answer is no.......UNLESS the manufacture can prove the aftermarket part caused the failure.

See http://www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/po...nuson-moss.htm for more information

[xXDeathMaliCeXx]

Can't they void it if you personally do the install instead of having it done professionally?

[IceFyre13th]

They have to prove the problem was caused by the installation / part.......

Even easier to understand link http://autos.aol.com/article/warrant...rmarket-parts/

"This means that, under the provisions of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975, an automotive dealership/carmaker cannot void your warranty because your vehicle has been modified with aftermarket parts. They (the manufacturers) have to prove that the failure was the direct result of the installed aftermarket part. Unfortunately, too many folks have gone to a dealer to have warranty service performed on their modified vehicle only to have the dealer refuse to cover the defective items. The dealer usually states, that because of the aftermarket parts installed, the warranty is void (without even attempting to determine whether or not the aftermarket part caused the problem). This is illegal...period."

[IceFyre13th]

And as to racing at events, see the bottom of this link

http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...ty-intact.html

[xXDeathMaliCeXx]

Thanks for the info! :happy0180:

[IceFyre13th]

And why I love SEMA.....

http://www.sema.org/sema-enews/2011/...ermarket-parts

[Dezoris]

They can do whatever they want in the moment.
It's up to you to take them to court and prove them wrong which costs more money than the warranty work.

[ModBargains.com]

I've been telling customers about the Magnuson and Moss Warranty act for almost a decade now. I feel like not enough people know about this, and are scared of modifying their brand new cars because of how some people have been treated by dealerships and their aftermarket parts.

All of this of course can be 100% avoided by going to a GOOD dealership. I had a modified BMW for years, with almost everything you can think of aside from engine internals, and still under warranty they would do oil changes, fix my window regulators that went out all the time, and they would have no problem fixing them, so it 100% depends on the dealer you bring it to.

I was so comfortable with my dealer at the time, that I just straight up told him, "Check engine light is on. I know why it's on, it's got no cats at the moment, but can you still do my maintenance for today?" He said that's not a problem, and made some witty joke I cannot remember, but they were great to work with.

[MrSlay]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

They can do whatever they want in the moment.
It's up to you to take them to court and prove them wrong which costs more money than the warranty work.

The truth. That's why it pays to have a great relationship with your service guy.

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

They can do whatever they want in the moment.
It's up to you to take them to court and prove them wrong which costs more money than the warranty work.

Originally Posted by MrSlay

The truth. That's why it pays to have a great relationship with your service guy.

This is NOT the truth.

If you, after consulting a lawyer, feel you can reasonably win a case in court, you are entitled to lawyer and court fees from the defendant.

That's the point of the M-M law, consumers can sue and get their fair compensation.

Dangling the M-M law in front of a vehicle manufacturer, given that you have a valid claim, makes them often provide the work/service without question.

Having a good relationship with a good dealer often solves this problem. And as long as you have a strong paper trail and the dealer knows what to do, you shouldn't have any issues with warranty service.

The only reason why dealers don't want to work on a modified car is because the service manager (or GM) fears being (or has been) burned from denied warranty claims to Subaru. Keep in mind that warranty work is paid out of pocket by the dealer (in terms of parts/labor) and they then have the manufacture reimburse.

-alex

[Rayme]

That's great if you live in the USA.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by mav1178

This is NOT the truth.

If you, after consulting a lawyer, feel you can reasonably win a case in court, you are entitled to lawyer and court fees from the defendant.

That's the point of the M-M law, consumers can sue and get their fair compensation.

Dangling the M-M law in front of a vehicle manufacturer, given that you have a valid claim, makes them often provide the work/service without question.

-alex

Lawyers require retainers for cases there are always out of pocket costs, filing fees, court costs etc. etc.

Been there done that. Most lawyers will stay as far away from these types of cases because its bottom feeder crap. You can dangle the law in front of them all you want, they still don't have to fix your car.

[IceFyre13th]

Originally Posted by Dezoris

They can do whatever they want in the moment.
It's up to you to take them to court and prove them wrong which costs more money than the warranty work.

When you win, they will have to pay your court costs......at least if you put that in your case.

When I have had a stealership try to void a warranty (Ford product) all I did was mention this act and say "lets see what the court says" it was fixed.....sure, they will try because most people don't know the law.....they back down quick when it will cost them money to prove you wrong.

[Dezoris]

Originally Posted by IceFyre13th

When you win, they will have to pay your court costs......at least if you put that in your case.

When I have had a stealership try to void a warranty (Ford product) all I did was mention this act and say "lets see what the court says" it was fixed.....sure, they will try because most people don't know the law.....they back down quick when it will cost them money to prove you wrong.

Burden of proof is on you. Point is you have to pay up front which is thousands in court costs and legal fees that you may lose, when either the OEM shows up to court of the dealer. Huge risk, lot of stress, and money just to file and start the process.

Not as easy as empty threats, most car owners are not going to park their car broken and waste half a year taking a manufacturer to court over a 1k repair bill.