All-New 2022 Toyota 86 Reveal Delayed

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

Nah, they are just getting ready to release the MR2, but it will just be a front engine midship, so FMR2, maybe they'll even cannibalize the naming a bit and call it an FMR86.

They also plan to release the Celica, but I don't have that much insider knowledge on that one, it's going to at least be slightly cheaper than GR86.

Celica 20k-30k
GR86 30k-40k
FMR86-2 40K-50K
Super 50k-60k
Supra 60k+

Is the FMR2 going to appeal to the performance winter driver market by using front-wheel drive architecture tuned on a damp Nurburgring?

[DarkPira7e]

My god. There's a delay because there's a delay. There isn't a conspiracy behind everything. To Toyota, this is just another car. If the Camry was delayed, it wouldn't be because suddenly they had the urge to add cupholders or better fuel economy to make their consumers happier.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by daiheadjai

Is the FMR2 going to appeal to the performance winter driver market by using front-wheel drive architecture tuned on a damp Nurburgring?

It'll utilize the first ever reverse drive engineering where you can rotate the cabin 180 degrees and switch between RWD and FWD to best suit the road conditions.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

It'll utilize the first ever reverse drive engineering where you can rotate the cabin 180 degrees and switch between RWD and FWD to best suit the road conditions.

Built to combat snap oversteer.

Toyota Engineering ®️

[Lantanafrs2]

It's only delayed on our schedule not Toyotas.

[HKz]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

The tundra is also rumored to be delayed...im not sure if its just later or it got pushed to 2022, so i don't know how accurate that powerpoint has become after the sienna and the Venza (which i am guessing was the 2020 crossover?)

also...does anyone know what that new 2021 CUV was supposed to be? Was that the Corolla Cross which hasnt gotten any attention outside of ASEAN markets?

but hasn't it been totally accurate? Hybrid only Sienna & Venza came out true, and the timelines were pretty close to their launches. New CUV is still undetermined, could be Corolla Cross, could be new CUV Toyota is developing with Mazda, could be next gen CHR... 86 being launched this summer makes most sense anyways with the GR Yaris launch being over and done with. And all the rumors that I'm aware of still point to the new Tundra coming out by the end of this year..

[vh_supra26]

This has already been talked about at length in the thread below...

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143707

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

This has already been talked about at length in the thread below...

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143707

and it will be again when the next site posts "Jalopnik says ..." and somebody thinks it is new and exciting information and makes a new thread.

Putting my money on one of the .au sites!

[Blighty]

I heard that the delay is because they have retooled the GR86 as a kind of hybrid with a small battery to keep weight down.

[Ohio Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

and it will be again when the next site posts "Jalopnik says ..." and somebody thinks it is new and exciting information and makes a new thread.

Putting my money on one of the .au sites!

Citation laundering! Or better yet, Citogenesis!

[Swift]

This was a leak to comfort the fanboys here. Yes I am serious. Why? Great PR! Plus, chip shortage and covid...why not do a little delay. Yes, it was planned partially. They probably planned the delay last fall and I guarantee it is to make modify front fasica and headlights to closer align with Supra just like a few photoshops. Lil bump in power and suspension tuning and we are golden...all the while it makes them look like they care and listened to their customers.

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by Swift

This was a leak to comfort the fanboys here. Yes I am serious. Why? Great PR! Plus, chip shortage and covid...why not do a little delay. Yes, it was planned partially. They probably planned the delay last fall and I guarantee it is to make modify front fasica and headlights to closer align with Supra just like a few photoshops. Lil bump in power and suspension tuning and we are golden...all the while it makes them look like they care and listened to their customers.

So how are they bumping the power? Ignoring emissions? Get real. This will be springs and cosmetics. Again.

[alex87f]

Last I heard, Toyota wanted to give the car a large-scale release event, something that can't be done with CoVid still around. So they were giving themselves a bit of time until the whole things starts to blow over (which certainly sounded optimistic).

As everybody else says, there's a delay because there is one, but a last-minute engineering change seems highly unlikely, unless we're talking about veeery small suspension tuning stuff, that would likely have been planned for a long time.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by alex87f

Last I heard, Toyota wanted to give the car a large-scale release event, something that can't be done with CoVid still around. So they were giving themselves a bit of time until the whole things starts to blow over (which certainly sounded optimistic).

As everybody else says, there's a delay because there is one, but a last-minute engineering change seems highly unlikely, unless we're talking about veeery small suspension tuning stuff, that would likely have been planned for a long time.

And where did you hear that? On here? From some site speculating? There has not been one single official word from Toyota on the subject. Just a bunch of people guessing at what is going on. Many of these guesses seem to involve long convoluted and slightly bizarre theories on why it is "delayed" when the supposed leaked slide that everybody trusted so much before clearly shows a release in SUMMER of 21. It is not yet summer no matter how nice it is out. By using the vague date of "summer" they still have five months left where they can release it and still be within their plan. Just because Subaru released the BRZ now doesn't mean that was ever Toyota's schedule.