Since beastronix is no more, what’s the alternative?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

I would imagine someone would have to be a complete ass to contest that, since all it's doing is saving you 10 seconds of looking like a moron every time you want to enable it, lol. In for the answer to this question, though, because some people are all about the technicalities.

I would assume shouldn't be an issue. Other tuning can technically disable and enable those kind of things and STX class allow tuning.

Keyword: "assume"

[Kenny_LongWrench]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

With enough interest, more Beastronix units can be made and sold by CSG.

Count me in, too.

[CSG Mike]

Hang tight guys. Beastronix is not gone forever! May be a few months, but should be before the season starts for most of the country.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by conedodging

Might be interested, can't remember if these were ruled legal for STX or not.

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

I would imagine someone would have to be a complete ass to contest that, since all it's doing is saving you 10 seconds of looking like a moron every time you want to enable it, lol. In for the answer to this question, though, because some people are all about the technicalities.

I thought you couldn't disable ABS but turns out you can per 14.6.D so probably a gray area and a definite weenie protest since it doesn't do anything not already programmed into the car except for killing the ABS.

[Stang70Fastback]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

I thought you couldn't disable ABS but turns out you can per 14.6.D so probably a gray area and a definite weenie protest since it doesn't do anything not already programmed into the car except for killing the ABS.

Doesnt Beastronix just enable "Padal Dance Mode?" That doesn't disable ABS.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

Doesnt Beastronix just enable "Padal Dance Mode?" That doesn't disable ABS.

It has a mode that disables ABS to prevent Ice Mode from happening.

https://support.beastronix.com/porta...the-86nanny-v2

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Stang70Fastback

Doesnt Beastronix just enable "Padal Dance Mode?" That doesn't disable ABS.

Depends on configuration!

[Stang70Fastback]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

It has a mode that disables ABS to prevent Ice Mode from happening.

https://support.beastronix.com/porta...the-86nanny-v2

Ahh. Well that just sounds like a safety feature to me! :P

[cjd]

Unfortunately, for STX it potentially runs afoul of the "and nothing else" portion of the rule for systems that disable ABS electronically (the only legal way to do so).


If it were JUST pedal dance, you might be able to argue that it's an ABS disable feature, with a convenience option to do pedal dance the easy way (since you DO NOT NEED the device to do pedal dance)


With the fan switch mode, it might be too many 'convenience' features.


Anyone that protests for it is a pathetic sore loser, but...


Unless it is easy to break out each of the features into a separate box that's daisy-chained on the OBD circuit, you're taking a chance in STX with this.


I'd definitely be interested in acquiring one again - I sold my old one when I had to get the new car because the 17+ hadn't been resolved at the time... though disabling ABS turned nasty ice mode into flat-spotting, I've worked on my braking technique a LOT since then.

[Evan55]

Openflash tablet can disable traction control and ice mode too, correct?

[conedodging]

Originally Posted by cjd

Unfortunately, for STX it potentially runs afoul of the "and nothing else" portion of the rule for systems that disable ABS electronically (the only legal way to do so).


If it were JUST pedal dance, you might be able to argue that it's an ABS disable feature, with a convenience option to do pedal dance the easy way (since you DO NOT NEED the device to do pedal dance)


With the fan switch mode, it might be too many 'convenience' features.


Anyone that protests for it is a pathetic sore loser, but...


Unless it is easy to break out each of the features into a separate box that's daisy-chained on the OBD circuit, you're taking a chance in STX with this.


I'd definitely be interested in acquiring one again - I sold my old one when I had to get the new car because the 17+ hadn't been resolved at the time... though disabling ABS turned nasty ice mode into flat-spotting, I've worked on my braking technique a LOT since then.

It bothers me that both functions being in the same box is what matters. They're on separate switches, so each switch does only one function.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by cjd

Unfortunately, for STX it potentially runs afoul of the "and nothing else" portion of the rule for systems that disable ABS electronically (the only legal way to do so).


If it were JUST pedal dance, you might be able to argue that it's an ABS disable feature, with a convenience option to do pedal dance the easy way (since you DO NOT NEED the device to do pedal dance)


With the fan switch mode, it might be too many 'convenience' features.


Anyone that protests for it is a pathetic sore loser, but...


Unless it is easy to break out each of the features into a separate box that's daisy-chained on the OBD circuit, you're taking a chance in STX with this.


I'd definitely be interested in acquiring one again - I sold my old one when I had to get the new car because the 17+ hadn't been resolved at the time... though disabling ABS turned nasty ice mode into flat-spotting, I've worked on my braking technique a LOT since then.

AC switch = fan switch. Just saying

[cjd]

Originally Posted by conedodging

It bothers me that both functions being in the same box is what matters. They're on separate switches, so each switch does only one function.

Write the board. This isn't the place for a discussion on the merits of the rule as written, but in this case: I agree. I don't know what caused the rule to be written that way though. The combo oil cooler/radiator is also not legal, same fundamental reason.

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

AC switch = fan switch. Just saying

Yup. That's what I do now when I need to - I usually put it to the floor vent and stuff my helmet under while I'm at it, helps dry it out and keeps it cool. My 86nanny only had PD/ABS (and tpms light) features...

I'll also be writing a letter along the way, but need a little more research.
For that matter, I'll be testing PD at the spring test-n-tune, whether I have an 86nanny or not.

[Hades]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Well there's something I didn't know I wanted...

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