FRS Shifter Play Fix??? - Page 4 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Th3rdSun · 06-17-2020, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

To me it's kinda like buying an aftermarket CAI. What the stock intake isn't cold enough for you?

Well,tell that to my friend,who put a full K&N CAI in his Chevy SS and got ~10-15whp gain(iirc). And yes,he has the dyno sheet to prove it,so...

WNDSRFR · 06-17-2020, 03:40 PM

This is not a Chevy SS. This is an FR-S. Of course there are many cars where the intake could be improved. This is just not one of them. There are some CAI's that look cool or they make a cool noise, but I don't think any improve on the performance of the OEM. Without the stupid sound tube of course.

But this post got me wondering if my shifter really does have a problem.
If you go out to your car and put it in gear. Engine off. And move the gear shift left and right. Is there no play at all? Try any gear. Every gear. Is there really no play at all?
I really goota know.

NoHaveMSG · 06-17-2020, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

But this post got me wondering if my shifter really does have a problem.
If you go out to your car and put it in gear. Engine off. And move the gear shift left and right. Is there no play at all? Try any gear. Every gear. Is there really no play at all?
I really goota know.

If it feels okay I don't think I would worry about it

Decep · 06-17-2020, 05:47 PM

Wow. Talk about an entitled, pissy little attitude that now banned guy had. Dont think i've ever seen anything like it in all the forums i've been a part of.

Tcoat · 06-17-2020, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep

Wow. Talk about an entitled, pissy little attitude that now banned guy had. Dont think i've ever seen anything like it in all the forums i've been a part of.

It got far far far worse!

Ohio Enthusiast · 06-17-2020, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WNDSRFR

But this post got me wondering if my shifter really does have a problem.
If you go out to your car and put it in gear. Engine off. And move the gear shift left and right. Is there no play at all? Try any gear. Every gear. Is there really no play at all?
I really goota know.

On my 2018 BRZ with stock shifter I get no play (well, maybe 1/16") front to back and about a 1/4" play left to right in gear (all the gears are about the same). In my Focus ST I replaced all the shifter bushings (including the cable ends) with solid aluminum and it still had more play than my BRZ.

KR-S · 06-17-2020, 09:21 PM

Fuck! I guess I missed quite a shitshow! Somebody summarize what happened for me.

radroach · 06-17-2020, 09:55 PM

A brand new 86 / BRZ does not have play in gear.

The loose shifter play in gear was the first thing I noticed after I got the car back from the shop after getting the clutch serviced, had 55k miles on the car.

The looseness does have an effect, but the shifting action is "good enough" to live with, the 86 transmission is actually pretty great if you can drive it well enough and keep the car in good service.

Decep · 06-17-2020, 11:04 PM

Why would you mess with the shifter when changing the clutch out? I sat back and watched my mechanic change out my TOB and clutch and he didn't mess with the shifter at all.

churchx · 06-17-2020, 11:35 PM

Whatever the actual technical background, i'm glad that admins acted and shitstorm ended. Even if there always are two sides of truth (i'm guessing that banned OP thinks that it's all undeserved and he is innocent victim that did everything right and it's unhelpful and ungrateful community, evil trolls, fascist admins, that are at fault), nothing can warrant rude swearing as in cleaned up posts, pissing off many in community. Even if there had been mega-useful good technical info that would benefit lot of owners on fixing very common issue, it's not enough to justify being hostile prick. Even if particular issue hasn't affected me i always like reading threads (i'm sure many do) in technical sections to rise own technical knowledge in general, learn new things, familiarize with different areas of car that i like .. unless it turns out like this.

NoHaveMSG · 06-17-2020, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decep

Why would you mess with the shifter when changing the clutch out? I sat back and watched my mechanic change out my TOB and clutch and he didn't mess with the shifter at all.

If you drop the trans out to change the clutch you have to disconnect the shifter linkage and remove the retaining pins for the shift assembly. You can do it from under the car so you likely did not see him mess with it.

solidsnake11 · 06-18-2020, 01:15 AM

Jack car up pull transmission replace either centering springs and or detent balls. Hunt stiffer springs for both if you really hate it. You could also modify some of the parts in the transmission to make it tighter. Post an exploded view of the transmission and I will let you know which ones they are.
If its in gear in the video weld hockey stick then grind it down to tighter tolerances.

The CD009 has centering springs so you could get the conversion from mazworx to fix it depending on how much you hate it. .

The bushings you are wanting to replace are very thin so I'm not so sure they would cause problems.

solidsnake11 · 06-18-2020, 01:18 AM

Dang you banned him before I got to have some fun.

weederr33 · 06-18-2020, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

It got far far far worse!

Ugh, why did I have to miss it?!

06-17-2020, 05:47 PM	#46
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06-17-2020, 11:04 PM	#51
Decep Senior Member Join Date: May 2017 Drives: 2013 FR-S Series 10 Location: CA Posts: 1,073 Thanks: 172 Thanked 497 Times in 326 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why would you mess with the shifter when changing the clutch out? I sat back and watched my mechanic change out my TOB and clutch and he didn't mess with the shifter at all. __________________ 2013 FR-S 10 Series ~75k (SOLD) RCE SS-1 Coilovers Corsa Catback Edelbrock Supercharger installed @ 50k

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06-17-2020, 03:40 PM	#44
WNDSRFR Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: FR-S,GTI Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,155 Thanks: 228 Thanked 823 Times in 419 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This is not a Chevy SS. This is an FR-S. Of course there are many cars where the intake could be improved. This is just not one of them. There are some CAI's that look cool or they make a cool noise, but I don't think any improve on the performance of the OEM. Without the stupid sound tube of course. But this post got me wondering if my shifter really does have a problem. If you go out to your car and put it in gear. Engine off. And move the gear shift left and right. Is there no play at all? Try any gear. Every gear. Is there really no play at all? I really goota know.

06-17-2020, 09:55 PM	#50
radroach Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: car Location: usa Posts: 2,162 Thanks: 1,028 Thanked 867 Times in 530 Posts Mentioned: 35 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	A brand new 86 / BRZ does not have play in gear. The loose shifter play in gear was the first thing I noticed after I got the car back from the shop after getting the clutch serviced, had 55k miles on the car. The looseness does have an effect, but the shifting action is "good enough" to live with, the 86 transmission is actually pretty great if you can drive it well enough and keep the car in good service.

06-17-2020, 11:35 PM	#52
churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,085 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Whatever the actual technical background, i'm glad that admins acted and shitstorm ended. Even if there always are two sides of truth (i'm guessing that banned OP thinks that it's all undeserved and he is innocent victim that did everything right and it's unhelpful and ungrateful community, evil trolls, fascist admins, that are at fault), nothing can warrant rude swearing as in cleaned up posts, pissing off many in community. Even if there had been mega-useful good technical info that would benefit lot of owners on fixing very common issue, it's not enough to justify being hostile prick. Even if particular issue hasn't affected me i always like reading threads (i'm sure many do) in technical sections to rise own technical knowledge in general, learn new things, familiarize with different areas of car that i like .. unless it turns out like this.

06-18-2020, 01:15 AM	#54
solidsnake11 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Drives: brz Location: nc Posts: 318 Thanks: 431 Thanked 739 Times in 443 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Jack car up pull transmission replace either centering springs and or detent balls. Hunt stiffer springs for both if you really hate it. You could also modify some of the parts in the transmission to make it tighter. Post an exploded view of the transmission and I will let you know which ones they are. If its in gear in the video weld hockey stick then grind it down to tighter tolerances. The CD009 has centering springs so you could get the conversion from mazworx to fix it depending on how much you hate it. . The bushings you are wanting to replace are very thin so I'm not so sure they would cause problems.

06-18-2020, 01:18 AM	#55
solidsnake11 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Drives: brz Location: nc Posts: 318 Thanks: 431 Thanked 739 Times in 443 Posts Mentioned: 24 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dang you banned him before I got to have some fun.

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