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1 | 10 | 3.86% | |
2 | 17 | 6.56% | |
3 | 49 | 18.92% | |
4 | 113 | 43.63% | |
5 | 70 | 27.03% | |
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04-18-2021, 04:39 PM | #421 |
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Tiny pipes.
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04-18-2021, 05:55 PM | #422 |
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I saw the BRZ at the ATL auto show! It was way better looking in person and very muscular.
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TOYOTA GAZOO Racing Presents World Debut of the New 2022 GR 86 (Second Gen 86)!
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Sick. I can’t wait to see it in the flesh. Metal. Any comparison to the old one? How did it compare in hood height, fender flare, width in the hips? Anything that really stuck out? Did they let people open it? |
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04-18-2021, 07:32 PM | #424 |
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04-18-2021, 09:50 PM | #425 |
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Just made me realize, I wonder if they've done away with the trunk key hole all together? Doesn't seem like there's enough lip under the trunk lid to stash it any more.
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*If* they did lower the car on the suspension a wee bit, I would bet they have increased bump travel by a similar amount or more. Quote:
Yeah, buying a new car usually is a waste of some $$$. For a lot of us, the new engine will be compelling enough to go ahead though. Your priorities aren't the same as everyone's, of course people should make responsible choices based on their own wants and needs and resources. What doesn't make sense for you, might make sense for others... |
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04-19-2021, 03:33 AM | #427 | |
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The car looks very similar everywhere but the rear fender flare area looks capable of fitting wider wheels than our generation. The front fender area looks the same in width to my eyes. I couldn't find a bad angle to this car and the grille looks smaller and less noticeable in person. The interior felt just like sitting in our car as well and the quality of interior was the same. The trunk and engine bay was deja vu all over again. The lines in the body look better in person. I was a hater of the BRZ front end but loved the GR86 front end but after yesterday I like both. |
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When someone says 'Oh that's just marketing', its like saying that it doesn't mean anything. But that's just not always true. As you said _everything_ could be said to be marketing, yet some things are important and effect performance in ways that matter. For instance CG, Power/Torque figures, weight are all important metrics. And even if its a slight improvement, its better than it being worse - which is what you would suspect of they don't mention that its better. |
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This is the bare-bones JDM edition. You can tell it from the exhaust tail pipes. In the past they were using Yokohama dB decibel E70 in these models. |
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I spoked to Toyo salesman that takes care of GR models here in Pl , he expect new 86 to start around 35k Euro, since every new Toyota model is more expensive and 86 is now higher taxed due to 2+L displacement (from 3% to 18.6%) and it may go as high optioned as 40k Euro. That is kinda crazy pricing for a low performance (for todays standards), medium build quality sports car. Its around a Civic Type R pricing. Also the 2.0 Supra starts at 46k. The 1st gen started at 29k Euro.
And cars will be deliviered to the customers at the start of 2022.
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I think they would lose a lot of potential buyers. |
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04-19-2021, 07:25 AM | #433 |
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I think saying "whatever is published in catalogue" is equally broad in this context.
I was thinking the same, but last time it didn't come painted - but perhaps that was just the bumper. |
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Unless they wanna bite a bullet and take some of the tax costs on themselfs and lower the starting price. But even the GR Yaris is 36k Euro with Track Pack, and that is an option everyone gets. And its still only 1.6l so no displacement tax issues here and the salesaman told me he dont expect 86 to be less expensive. I heared ITA also has a huge dispalcement tax (I talked to a guy who got himself a Supra with 2.0 coz tax and price difference on 3.0 was so big), so not looking too bright for us
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