Sprintex 335 Testing & Progress

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by s2d4

Yeah, no.

Can you expand on that?

[CK_Bladesmith]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Can you expand on that?

My thought as well.

[Calum]

The piping is plenty to flow the volume of air without undo restriction. Mike was saying he'd have to upgrade the size of the MAF housing not the while run. The MAF sensors range of what it can measure is determined by a maximum air flow velocity. The max air flow velocity is determined by the size of the tube.

[Xero-Limit]

I'm thinking axles as well. Coilovers went on but we couldn't get anything less than -2.1 camber which spins the 245's in 3rd still. We have the SPC bushings and @Raceseng strut tops planned for tomorrow which will give us what we need up front too.

I know some of the other guys we shipped these kits too should be unpacking theirs. Anxious to see how we do with the varied setups those are going on.

[86SPEED]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

I'm thinking axles as well. Coilovers went on but we couldn't get anything less than -2.1 camber which spins the 245's in 3rd still. We have the SPC bushings and @Raceseng strut tops planned for tomorrow which will give us what we need up front too.

I know some of the other guys we shipped these kits too should be unpacking theirs. Anxious to see how we do with the varied setups those are going on.

im thinking thats what my problem is somewhat with traction. 2.3 on the left and 3.2 on the right side.. LCA's are hear to take care of that now

Drive the car here to Vegas

[sam69]

Originally Posted by s2d4

You can, but the restriction at the box won't help.

I'm aware of that, that's why I have a modified (for oil cooler lines) CF Simota air intake system sitting in the workshop ready to go on but is there any point if the Maf pipe and TB are a restriction

Also can the factory ecu be tuned with/for a larger TB and Maf pipe ??

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Calum

The piping is plenty to flow the volume of air without undo restriction. Mike was saying he'd have to upgrade the size of the MAF housing not the while run. The MAF sensors range of what it can measure is determined by a maximum air flow velocity. The max air flow velocity is determined by the size of the tube.

Knowledge for the win!

Originally Posted by sam69

I'm aware of that, that's why I have a modified (for oil cooler lines) CF Simota air intake system sitting in the workshop ready to go on but is there any point if the Maf pipe and TB are a restriction

Also can the factory ecu be tuned with/for a larger TB and Maf pipe ??

That was the yes part of what you had quoted.

As for the intake, whatever you are happy with it.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Calum

The piping is plenty to flow the volume of air without undo restriction. Mike was saying he'd have to upgrade the size of the MAF housing not the while run. The MAF sensors range of what it can measure is determined by a maximum air flow velocity. The max air flow velocity is determined by the size of the tube.

Incorrect Sir with all do respect.. in addition, there is power to be made with a proper filter/tube/TB combo, as they work in sync. For example, 80mm TB and 90mm filter/tube. Kenne Bell does it all day long. Sir, please remember that a SC works ALOT easier with an unrestricted, extremely free flowing inlet.

In fact, 65mm on the inlet tells me the 210 is loosing power in the upper revs as well. I really don't think some of you realize what kind of beast you have by way of MASSIVE inlet and meth injection. Just to note, your success with a properly setup Sprintex design benefits me as well having skin in the game, yet I have yet to see one setup correctly for maximum Volumetric Efficiency and I'm back and forth with my CNC guy to get me my finished components.

Ron

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by Ron

Incorrect Sir with all do respect.. in addition, there is power to be made with a proper filter/tube/TB combo, as they work in sync. For example, 80mm TB and 90mm filter/tube. Kenne Bell does it all day long. Sir, please remember that a SC works ALOT easier with an unrestricted, extremely free flowing inlet.

In fact, 65mm on the inlet tells me the 210 is loosing power in the upper revs as well. I really don't think some of you realize what kind of beast you have by way of MASSIVE inlet and meth injection. Just to note, your success with a properly setup Sprintex design benefits me as well having skin in the game, yet I have yet to see one setup correctly for maximum Volumetric Efficiency and I'm back and forth with my CNC guy to get me my finished components.

Ron

What is the restriction of 65mm? CFM?

[Subzero]

Would a "torque box" do any good, giving it a plenum to breath from in front of the throttlebody?

[blown]

Originally Posted by Ron

Incorrect Sir with all do respect.. in addition, there is power to be made with a proper filter/tube/TB combo, as they work in sync. For example, 80mm TB and 90mm filter/tube. Kenne Bell does it all day long. Sir, please remember that a SC works ALOT easier with an unrestricted, extremely free flowing inlet.

In fact, 65mm on the inlet tells me the 210 is loosing power in the upper revs as well. I really don't think some of you realize what kind of beast you have by way of MASSIVE inlet and meth injection. Just to note, your success with a properly setup Sprintex design benefits me as well having skin in the game, yet I have yet to see one setup correctly for maximum Volumetric Efficiency and I'm back and forth with my CNC guy to get me my finished components.

Ron

I'm curious as well , what about the inlet elbow? I was considering one of your kits on my aw11 awhile back.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by blown

I'm curious as well , what about the inlet elbow? I was considering one of your kits on my aw11 awhile back.

Bigger is better. Not sure what size the inlet is, but if it's 65mm on the opening to match the TB then it is undersized for max VE while overspinning. Since most overspin, most can benefit from an increase in inlet size. HP is gained by allowing the compressor to spin more freely via increased inlet. And meth injection has the distinct ability to raise the adiabatic efficiency of the compressor, effectively lowering compressor oil and outlet temperatures respectively. With that said, you guys should be in love with the base kit and what it provides for you with bigger power around the corner. Much however is involved to increase compressor VE. I believe your TB is fly by wire and not sure if ECUTEK can convert MAF signal to allow for a bigger MAF to be ran. So SC inlet manifold, TB, and MAF/filter tubing all need to be increased to allow maximum compressor VE. Guys, just take a quick peek at Kenne Bells page and ask yourself, why on earth do they keep going bigger and bigger on the inlet. It's simple as mentioned earlier; it frees up HP by way of allowing the compressor to spin more freely.


Ron

[350matt]

there's some good points raised here, and I believe its worth trying

but only once you're up over 300Bhp

and yes ECUtek allows you offset / rescale the MAF so you can fit a larger MAF tube with the stock plug in part

and you can get a larger TB from Cusco and MAP performance - but I've yet to seee any gains published for these

[Chad86]

I am looking at exhaust options for the 335. Should I be running a 3" exhaust setup like one would for a turbo setup for better performance?