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06-05-2019, 08:05 AM | #71 | |
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07-03-2021, 04:37 PM | #72 |
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I'm resurrecting this two year old thread because it hits on what I'm mulling over right now. When the weather turns cold I'm going to need some suitable tires for my recently acquired 86 or I'll have to park it for the winter. The 86 is not my only car, so when the roads are truly sloppy I can always drive my winter tire equipped AWD VW wagon. But when it's cold and the roads are relatively clean I'd still like to drive the 86 when I can. I found a test that charts the relative performance of summer, all-season, all-weather, winter and nordic winter tires. I'm thinking my winter set up is going to be all-weather (with the three peak mountain snowflake rating) so I can have some semblance of handling and braking when the roads are cold and dry or cool and wet.
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^ good plan -
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The problem of the all season tire is not about the summer, actually if you only daily drive it you may not really notice too much difference.
But when the snow falls, everything changed. Driving a RWD car with all season tire on even mild snow is very, very dangerous. Any hard brake/uphill stop&go/sharp turn may put you in trouble. |
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There are plenty of good all-season tires that are perfectly fine in cold, cold/wet, and light snow. There are also plenty that suck in those conditions. It's one "category" but there is a *very* wide range of performance capabilities in different conditions.
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This is true. Some of them absolutely suck. I’ve driven RWD cars on summers in the snow with better results than some “all seasons” |
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If you want to run autocross or the occasional track day, two sets of tires and wheels is worth the investment. I have a set of Falken 660s on RPF1 wheels and although they're awesome for SCCA solo events, they're so soft that you can hear all the pebbles hitting the wheel wells on the street. I've worn the Primacy OEM tires down to the wear bars and have a set of Pirelli all seasons on the way.
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This is why I have 3 sets of tires; summer, winter, track! |
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I think a lot of this discussion is based on your experience bias. For example, I've always lived in relatively mild winter climates. The furthest North I've lived is the DC Metro area. I've driven in snow many times with all-seasons with no issues even in uncharacteristic snowfall.
Winter tires do not make a lot of sense in these areas. They certainly would be benefit, but not sure they are a necessary expense as long as you know when NOT to drive.
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my "sets" are just two, summer & winter. having limited grip of hybrid/compromise/universal summer-and-track, lets also save on other mods that might be more needed to accompany grippier tires, eg. BBK, stiffer suspension and such. Grippier tires often also wear faster. Not going overboard with tire grip helps keep spendings down a LOT, and even on less grippy tires one can have a lot of fun on track. And not making car too track oriented keeps it way more usable & comfortable on streets, if it's the only car.
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I do summers and snows on my WRX. But I do summers and all seasons on my BRZ. If snow is in the picture I take the WRX. If not I have drive all seasons in many winters without issue. If the BRZ was my only car I would get snows and just deal with soft tires on all those good weather days. Probably only need snow about 15 days in the winter.
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