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OK, then it sounds to me like the long press leaves something in play that kicks in before ice mode, but the pedal dance negates it so it falls through to ice mode.
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Can you share some more about this single-channel mode? You have my attention.
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Can't believe anyone is driving these cars with the nannies still on. These are such excellent, communicative, and easy to control vehicles.
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How the heck are you guys getting ice mode so often?
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https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25494 Easiest to feel when braking mid corner, which you shouldn't be doing but with pedal dance the car senses the light front wheel and reduces braking pressure around the grip of the light front wheel meaning you're basically not braking at all. The single channel mode I mean is that it acts like ABS from the '80s where it reacts to the wheel that's locking and reduces brake pressure across the system to get grip back to that wheel. Without pedal dance it's computing wheel speeds at all four corners and eases up on the brake pressure on the light front wheel while still allowing the other 2-3 loaded wheels to slow the car down, real useful when you fuck up and want to pull your line in tighter. I have only experienced it with the pedal dance and an extremely aggressive brake application. If you're gentle in getting on the brakes or I should say, not a fucking idiot jamming on the brakes like I was it will almost never happen. You're basically shocking the tires and the dumb pedal dance mode can't tell the difference between that and ice, the regular ABS/EBD can. This is in autox, not on the street, I'm not dumb enough to think I can outbrake the computer. /imho |
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Go find a slick bumpy surface. Get up to about 60 mph, then turn the car right as hard as you can, then turn left as hard as you can while slowing down to about 18 mph. And try to do it better than hundreds of other people.
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For me it was 1:1 with trying to break the brake pedal, regardless of pavement or suspension loading.
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...and I think that is why the bulk of "serious" autocrossers in twins don't seem to mess with the pedal dance. |
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This is a good point. As I was reading that I was like "uh what track are you driving that has you doing that maneuver". Make sense why I haven't had that happen in my 20-30 track days using the long press method (I don't autoX anymore).
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Pedal dance preserves ABS, as the ABS ecu is separate from anything the pedal dance does. The pedal dance does not affect ABS or Ice Mode. |
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