so when is the dang thing going to available? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

MisterGoober · 09-13-2021, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernest72

Well plan on paying more and losing more on depreciation, when you buy in a bubble because of the various supply issues and increase in demand. It’s a sellers market and worst time to buy. But if the need is there I get it.

As long as you're not paying over MSRP, there isn't much markup between invoice and MSRP on the BRZ, WRX, etc. These aren't cars where people typically get $5k off or anything.

I paid close to full MSRP for my 2015 WRX (in 2014), it had no markups and no garbage accessories (tint, etc.). It was totaled 2 years later (no fault of my own) for $2k or so less than what i paid. Made me rethink how I buy cars in that I don't mind paying a bit more if value is retained.

zooki · 09-13-2021, 10:22 PM

Driving the old tow rig around until they come out is getting old…��

JesseG · 09-14-2021, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterGoober

As long as you're not paying over MSRP, there isn't much markup between invoice and MSRP on the BRZ, WRX, etc. These aren't cars where people typically get $5k off or anything.

I paid close to full MSRP for my 2015 WRX (in 2014), it had no markups and no garbage accessories (tint, etc.). It was totaled 2 years later (no fault of my own) for $2k or so less than what i paid. Made me rethink how I buy cars in that I don't mind paying a bit more if value is retained.

The WRX, and even more so the STI, are known to hold their value really well. I think the BRZ and 86 fall into that category, although not quite as good as the WRX. Used car prices are ridiculous right now for any decent vehicle. It’s the classic supply and demand issue. New car production has been slowed down so much.
My advice is if you are planning on buying a second gen twin, sell your first gen now! If you have a second car to use until then.

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Nikkonx · 09-14-2021, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseG

The WRX, and even more so the STI, are known to hold their value really well. I think the BRZ and 86 fall into that category, although not quite as good as the WRX. Used car prices are ridiculous right now for any decent vehicle. It’s the classic supply and demand issue. New car production has been slowed down so much.
My advice is if you are planning on buying a second gen twin, sell your first gen now! If you have a second car to use until then.

Facts. This is the only reason I'm offloading my current vehicle. Very rare to have the positive equity, especially when your car is usually worth as much as a paper clip and stick of gum. (Fiesta ST)

Jeonsa · 09-14-2021, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseG

The WRX, and even more so the STI, are known to hold their value really well. I think the BRZ and 86 fall into that category, although not quite as good as the WRX. Used car prices are ridiculous right now for any decent vehicle. It’s the classic supply and demand issue. New car production has been slowed down so much.
My advice is if you are planning on buying a second gen twin, sell your first gen now! If you have a second car to use until then.

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I don’t know about that, but I get what you’re saying. Lol

Liquidsnake · 09-18-2021, 05:07 PM

My lease is up in 13 months. Hopefully the world is in a better place and the options on the GR86 are better next year. I want just a little more.

McMCOO · 09-18-2021, 07:48 PM

I stopped in at our local dealer in Vancouver, WA just to rattle cages and see if they knew anything. I was greeted by a pre-owned 2020 Hakone sitting right up against the glass front windows of the building. I was directed to a sales person with pretty eyes, lovely figure, and impractically long French-manicured nails. Alas, she knew next to nothing about cars, and less than nothing about the soon-to-come GR86. I had to point to the Hakone to explain to her what it was. She ran to her manager, who just shrugged.

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McMCOO · 09-18-2021, 07:52 PM

I see why that Hakone is so expensive. It has heated leather seats, leather seats, heated seats, and heated driver seat. So many seats! It's a like a green 4Runner.

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trippinbillies40 · 09-18-2021, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by McMCOO

I stopped in at our local dealer in Vancouver, WA just to rattle cages and see if they knew anything. I was greeted by a pre-owned 2020 Hakone sitting right up against the glass front windows of the building. I was directed to a sales person with pretty eyes, lovely figure, and impractically long French-manicured nails. Alas, she knew next to nothing about cars, and less than nothing about the soon-to-come GR86. I had to point to the Hakone to explain to her what it was. She ran to her manager, who just shrugged.

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Oooh, I live about 5 minutes from McCord's. Happy to put you in touch with someone knowledgeable at a Subaru store in town if you're not 100% stuck on a GR86. And you're more than welcome to check out my BRZ when it comes in.

Jeonsa · 09-18-2021, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Oooh, I live about 5 minutes from McCord's. Happy to put you in touch with someone knowledgeable at a Subaru store in town if you're not 100% stuck on a GR86. And you're more than welcome to check out my BRZ when it comes in.

Fellow Washingtonians?! Lol

Jeonsa · 09-18-2021, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by McMCOO

I stopped in at our local dealer in Vancouver, WA just to rattle cages and see if they knew anything. I was greeted by a pre-owned 2020 Hakone sitting right up against the glass front windows of the building. I was directed to a sales person with pretty eyes, lovely figure, and impractically long French-manicured nails. Alas, she knew next to nothing about cars, and less than nothing about the soon-to-come GR86. I had to point to the Hakone to explain to her what it was. She ran to her manager, who just shrugged.

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Yeah, my dealer knows about them and are waiting for allocations.

McMCOO · 09-18-2021, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by trippinbillies40

Oooh, I live about 5 minutes from McCord's. Happy to put you in touch with someone knowledgeable at a Subaru store in town if you're not 100% stuck on a GR86. And you're more than welcome to check out my BRZ when it comes in.

Thanks! Probably I will try to stay with the GR for now.

McMCOO · 09-18-2021, 09:08 PM

I *did* find out this Toyota dealership will take deposits to reserve a car, but can't yet with this one.

trippinbillies40 · 09-18-2021, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by McMCOO

Thanks! Probably I will try to stay with the GR for now.

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Let's cruise when they all come in.

09-13-2021, 10:22 PM	#16
zooki Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: waiting on a 2021... Location: Texas Posts: 770 Thanks: 190 Thanked 410 Times in 233 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Driving the old tow rig around until they come out is getting old…�� __________________ 2016 4Runner Tail edition 2020 Camry 2020 RAV4 2013 Chevy 3500 4x4 Duramax 1999 Ford F250 Powerstroke, the tow rig 1969 Mustang, the fast car....(:

09-18-2021, 05:07 PM	#20
Liquidsnake Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: "I drives like a Porsche" Location: LA Posts: 638 Thanks: 89 Thanked 245 Times in 136 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My lease is up in 13 months. Hopefully the world is in a better place and the options on the GR86 are better next year. I want just a little more. __________________

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09-18-2021, 07:48 PM	#21
McMCOO Anti-Social Media Join Date: Apr 2021 Drives: 24 GR86 Premium MT is on the way! Location: SW Washington State Posts: 219 Thanks: 121 Thanked 280 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I stopped in at our local dealer in Vancouver, WA just to rattle cages and see if they knew anything. I was greeted by a pre-owned 2020 Hakone sitting right up against the glass front windows of the building. I was directed to a sales person with pretty eyes, lovely figure, and impractically long French-manicured nails. Alas, she knew next to nothing about cars, and less than nothing about the soon-to-come GR86. I had to point to the Hakone to explain to her what it was. She ran to her manager, who just shrugged. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

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McMCOO Anti-Social Media Join Date: Apr 2021 Drives: 24 GR86 Premium MT is on the way! Location: SW Washington State Posts: 219 Thanks: 121 Thanked 280 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I see why that Hakone is so expensive. It has heated leather seats, leather seats, heated seats, and heated driver seat. So many seats! It's a like a green 4Runner. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

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McMCOO Anti-Social Media Join Date: Apr 2021 Drives: 24 GR86 Premium MT is on the way! Location: SW Washington State Posts: 219 Thanks: 121 Thanked 280 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I did find out this Toyota dealership will take deposits to reserve a car, but can't yet with this one.

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