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Old 04-08-2019, 04:05 PM   #29
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Thanks for the info. My next question is, can I use the Toyota TOB part on my BRZ? Seems like the Toyota part is cheaper than the Subaru part.
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Thanks for the info. My next question is, can I use the Toyota TOB part on my BRZ? Seems like the Toyota part is cheaper than the Subaru part.
Yes, parts are interchangeable.
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I have the same problem with the TOB on my 2015 BRZ. Is this covered by the 5yr powertrain warranty by any chance. I only have 30k miles on it but I am out of the 3yr/36k warranty.
You might call subaru of america and open a case - they might help out, might not. They offered me $600 toward the repair on mine (out of 3/36 but within powertrain), but my dealer labor rates were so crazy high that I just ended up doing it myself with help from a friend.

Put in a new clutch disk, pressure plate, pressure plate bolts, fork, fork pivot, TOB, clips, etc. and was way less than what the dealer would have cost even after the $600 credit from SOA.
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You might call subaru of america and open a case - they might help out, might not. They offered me $600 toward the repair on mine (out of 3/36 but within powertrain), but my dealer labor rates were so crazy high that I just ended up doing it myself with help from a friend.

Put in a new clutch disk, pressure plate, pressure plate bolts, fork, fork pivot, TOB, clips, etc. and was way less than what the dealer would have cost even after the $600 credit from SOA.

I went to my local Subaru Dealer in Los Angeles and they quoted me approximately $1100 for changing out the TOB. They wanted $60 for the part.
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I went to my local Subaru Dealer in Los Angeles and they quoted me approximately $1100 for changing out the TOB. They wanted $60 for the part.
Alldata has it at almost 7 hours labor. $60 part, $50 fluid, 7 hours @ $150 an hour.

Cheaper than it would be here, we're $155 an hour.
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Thanks for the info. My next question is, can I use the Toyota TOB part on my BRZ? Seems like the Toyota part is cheaper than the Subaru part.
I see you are local to LA. I have a spare subie TOB that I bought before I took my car in. Since mine is a Scion, they wouldn't let me use it and bought the Toyota one for me. I'm up for selling it for however much the Toyota one is going for just to get it off my hands if you'd like.

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I went to my local Subaru Dealer in Los Angeles and they quoted me approximately $1100 for changing out the TOB. They wanted $60 for the part.
Dude, ask around any mechanic shop these clutch jobs on our cars are simple as pie. Chances are you can get any shop to do it for far less.

Or if you have a few buddies and a garage you can do it yourself. Yeah it's a bit of a pain but do able.
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I went to my local Subaru Dealer in Los Angeles and they quoted me approximately $1100 for changing out the TOB. They wanted $60 for the part.
Yeah that's about what they wanted here. Other repair shops were around $650 labor - $55 part.

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Alldata has it at almost 7 hours labor. $60 part, $50 fluid, 7 hours @ $150 an hour.
I think the warranty rate on the TSB was 2.8 hours though. Honestly - I can't see a decent mechanic with a lift and proper tools needing anywhere near 7 hours for this job. Half that seems much more reasonable.
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I think the warranty rate on the TSB was 2.8 hours though. Honestly - I can't see a decent mechanic with a lift and proper tools needing anywhere near 7 hours for this job. Half that seems much more reasonable.
How long it takes and how much you pay are two entirely different things. Alldata is pretty much the standard time guide for cash pay work.

Billy and Jonny on the corner can knock it out in 45 minutes for $300. Having the work done at full price at the dealer used to mean a superior quality of repair and warranty. Not sure that still holds true, although there’s no FIPG involved

Fwiw, I’m pretty certain I’ve never R&R’d any transmission for less than 8 hours cash pay.
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Dude, ask around any mechanic shop these clutch jobs on our cars are simple as pie. Chances are you can get any shop to do it for far less.

Or if you have a few buddies and a garage you can do it yourself. Yeah it's a bit of a pain but do able.
Good luck with that. Unless you know someone at a shop you probably won't find one that will drop the price much at all and even then it's questionable. So many repairs are coming down to diy or bend over and pay a shop book rate. When I was pricing getting the clutch done on my car last summer I couldn't get anyone to quote under $650 for labor. A couple of guys tried to explain to me that it didn't matter if it only took them 2 hours to do the work, it would still cost them more to do it than that amount I also couldn't find a single shop that would let me bring in parts, they all insisted on ordering the parts and having me pay nearly double over what I would have gotten them for myself. After two weeks of frustration I gave up and had AAMCO do it. It finally came out right after the second try, the first time they didn't replace the snout and the TOB was getting hung up on the deep scratches that were in it so they had to drop the tranny a second time and replace that and the TOB which they did at no cost to me.
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Yeah that's about what they wanted here. Other repair shops were around $650 labor - $55 part.



I think the warranty rate on the TSB was 2.8 hours though. Honestly - I can't see a decent mechanic with a lift and proper tools needing anywhere near 7 hours for this job. Half that seems much more reasonable.
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How long it takes and how much you pay are two entirely different things. Alldata is pretty much the standard time guide for cash pay work.

Billy and Jonny on the corner can knock it out in 45 minutes for $300. Having the work done at full price at the dealer used to mean a superior quality of repair and warranty. Not sure that still holds true, although there’s no FIPG involved

Fwiw, I’m pretty certain I’ve never R&R’d any transmission for less than 8 hours cash pay.
My dealer charged me 5 hours. That was for a complete clutch and flywheel replacement (including the snout the TOB slides on). The only reason they had to spend so long was I waited too long to get the TOB replaced so it melted down and took out the whole works. They said if I had just come in earlier and had the TOB changed before it went completely it would have been 1/2 the time and a $30 part. So instead of $530 or so it cost me $1200.
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My dealer charged me 5 hours. That was for a complete clutch and flywheel replacement (including the snout the TOB slides on). The only reason they had to spend so long was I waited too long to get the TOB replaced so it melted down and took out the whole works. They said if I had just come in earlier and had the TOB changed before it went completely it would have been 1/2 the time and a $30 part. So instead of $530 or so it cost me $1200.
I’m glad to hear that. Mercedes are expensive, sold mine years ago and have 3 Toyota’s (1 “Subaru”) in the driveway.
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How do you drive to baby your tob?
Does it mean taking your sweet time to make gear changes?
Clutch fully depressed every time you shift?
Basically how do you drive to make life easier for the tob?

Im at 35kmiles in a '13, I know itll go eventually but I dont want to thrash it. But I dont exactly know what that means in terms of how I should be driving though.
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How do you drive to baby your tob?
Does it mean taking your sweet time to make gear changes?
Clutch fully depressed every time you shift?
Basically how do you drive to make life easier for the tob?

Im at 35kmiles in a '13, I know itll go eventually but I dont want to thrash it. But I dont exactly know what that means in terms of how I should be driving though.
Opposite. Foot off the clutch the TOB is sitting still. Foot on the clutch it's spinning.

Don't sit at lights in gear with your foot on the clutch, drop it in neutral and let off. Not sure what else you can really do, you have to shift gears. Shift less?
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