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v1beeee · 08-02-2018, 08:58 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl5gwSWFgUJ/

Andrew@RacecompEngineering when should these be available and what information can you divulge on these?

Bach415 · 08-02-2018, 10:25 PM

@Racecomp Engineering *helping with the mention tag since it looked like it wasn't tagged properly and I want more info on this

churchx · 08-03-2018, 01:24 AM

Hmm, "street" with pillow camberplate instead of rubber topmounts?

TOPEC · 08-03-2018, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by churchx

Hmm, "street" with pillow camberplate instead of rubber topmounts?

well people want camber to be adjustable, RCE could've just used rubber top hats and left camber adjustment to camber bolts but ppl would bitch and whine about it slipping. at least these top hats dont add stack height so ppl dont need to go lower than required to compensate for the camber plate.

since these are single adjustable, i assume they're KW V2 shocks with custom valving?

churchx · 08-03-2018, 03:13 AM

Customers for "street" might be less tolerable for NVH then for "track". If anything, there will be more bitching about NVH / compliancy on these then on RCE tarmac-s. And there might be more customers for these that will still use stock alignment. Also reusing stock topmounts/making camberplates optional can nicely bring package price down vs including camberplates in set.

Racecomp Engineering · 08-03-2018, 10:02 AM

Hey all!

Yes, we're very excited to release these for BRZ and I'm working on a big write-up for everyone. Hopefully very soon. Lots of pics too.

As for the camber plates, they're pretty darn good camber plates. They're sealed on the bottom with a rubber boot and are a bump travel adding or lowering design. Part of the reason of including them by default is for ease of install, but also because they're just good pieces. (We also have an option for including rear OEM top mounts to make everything super easy to put on your car).

These are a single adjustable (rebound) damper with our own custom valving. Our goal was a usable range of adjustment that works well on the street as well as for light track and auto-x usage at a reasonable price (that part is new to us for coilovers

). A lot of coilovers in this price range feel like mushy garbage on the soft settings, and then are just way too stiff when turned up. One of the things we like about working with KW is how the rebound adjuster affects the curve. We're mostly affecting from 0.5 to 5 inches per second, so even when turned down it's not going to be a bouncy ride as there's still sufficient damping to keep things under control. When turned up, you're getting a lot more low and mid-speed damping, but not an insane amount of high piston speed damping. Firm, but not too firm for the track...which is something we actually see pretty often.

Anyway, lots more to say. Pics and driving impressions soon. This type of coilover has been a long time coming for us.

- Andrew

Racecomp Engineering · 08-03-2018, 12:00 PM

Also churchx, I haven't given up on that other camber plate project.

But that's for another time.

- Andrew

2Wavy · 08-03-2018, 12:36 PM

So from what I can see on the pictures, are these revalved resprung ST XTAs?

churchx · 08-03-2018, 12:55 PM

I wanted to ask several questions on these .. but i predict that in oncoming write-up most of those will be answered anyway, so i'd better wait

Racecomp Engineering · 08-03-2018, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Wavy

So from what I can see on the pictures, are these revalved resprung ST XTAs?

Essentially yes. We start with the same body and use different springs + valving. Also less expensive (at least for now), plus you get RCE support.

- Andrew

tehShirt · 08-03-2018, 02:46 PM

Interesting! I'm currently happy with my RCE yellow setup, but I could also be happy with these...

2Wavy · 08-03-2018, 03:17 PM

How do these compare to the Tarmac Zeros? I know these have rebound damping adjustments and camber plates, but which one is better for what application?

Ro_Ja · 08-04-2018, 01:34 PM

Are these instead of the Bilstein/GTWORX ones you had planned?

Racecomp Engineering · 08-15-2018, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Wavy

How do these compare to the Tarmac Zeros? I know these have rebound damping adjustments and camber plates, but which one is better for what application?

The Tarmac Zeros actually are a little more aggressive in terms of low speed compression damping. We will likely be phasing them out in the future in favor of the SS1s (though still of course supporting them).

- Andrew

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churchx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Drives: 2014 GT86 Location: Latvia, Riga Posts: 4,333 Thanks: 696 Thanked 2,085 Times in 1,436 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Customers for "street" might be less tolerable for NVH then for "track". If anything, there will be more bitching about NVH / compliancy on these then on RCE tarmac-s. And there might be more customers for these that will still use stock alignment. Also reusing stock topmounts/making camberplates optional can nicely bring package price down vs including camberplates in set.

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Racecomp Engineering Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2016 BRZ, 2012 Paris Di2 & 2018 STI Location: Severn, MD Posts: 5,403 Thanks: 3,418 Thanked 7,241 Times in 2,962 Posts Mentioned: 303 Post(s) Tagged: 9 Thread(s)	Hey all! Yes, we're very excited to release these for BRZ and I'm working on a big write-up for everyone. Hopefully very soon. Lots of pics too. As for the camber plates, they're pretty darn good camber plates. They're sealed on the bottom with a rubber boot and are a bump travel adding or lowering design. Part of the reason of including them by default is for ease of install, but also because they're just good pieces. (We also have an option for including rear OEM top mounts to make everything super easy to put on your car). These are a single adjustable (rebound) damper with our own custom valving. Our goal was a usable range of adjustment that works well on the street as well as for light track and auto-x usage at a reasonable price (that part is new to us for coilovers ). A lot of coilovers in this price range feel like mushy garbage on the soft settings, and then are just way too stiff when turned up. One of the things we like about working with KW is how the rebound adjuster affects the curve. We're mostly affecting from 0.5 to 5 inches per second, so even when turned down it's not going to be a bouncy ride as there's still sufficient damping to keep things under control. When turned up, you're getting a lot more low and mid-speed damping, but not an insane amount of high piston speed damping. Firm, but not too firm for the track...which is something we actually see pretty often. Anyway, lots more to say. Pics and driving impressions soon. This type of coilover has been a long time coming for us. - Andrew

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2Wavy Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Drives: 2016 BRZ Location: California Posts: 42 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So from what I can see on the pictures, are these revalved resprung ST XTAs?

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2Wavy Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Drives: 2016 BRZ Location: California Posts: 42 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	How do these compare to the Tarmac Zeros? I know these have rebound damping adjustments and camber plates, but which one is better for what application?

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