Team Slick Auto - Ontario1500

[drewbot]

Originally Posted by aaguirre123

If everything I say is not true then I apologized in advance. I am just very skeptical that a NA "stock" FA motor will only be 2 tenth of a sec behind a FI non-modified FA20 engine with 263whp / 203 torque. No matter how good of a driver you are, it is just unbelievable for a "stock" NA FA20 equipped frs/brz/gt86 will be just 2 tenth of a second behind another frs that is FI with 263 whp/203 torque.

Many of the courses out here reward excellent drivers and do not particularly favour straight line speed in cars.

Did you see that there was also a GT-R that entered? Did you see where they placed?

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by aaguirre123

If everything I say is not true then I apologized in advance. I am just very skeptical that a NA "stock" FA motor will only be 2 tenth of a sec behind a FI non-modified FA20 engine with 263whp / 203 torque. No matter how good of a driver you are, it is just unbelievable for a "stock" NA FA20 equipped frs/brz/gt86 will be just 2 tenth of a second behind another frs that is FI with 263 whp/203 torque.

Time to apologize.

I've been with @Slick at the track many times, and his car mods are exactly as posted. He is crazy fast. If he had been running E85 he would have been even faster.

It's his home track, so that's worth some time, and as stated earlier, and by many others, he's damn fast.

The running joke we have hear is that any passengers that ride with him should bring a barf bag because they aren't used to the high G's they are going to end up feeling.

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by Slick

Pretty much what's in my sig with a few addendums:
- custom rear diffuser (ver.2 coming soon)

Also intrigued by this.

[wparsons]

Originally Posted by aaguirre123

Common!? Who are you kidding here? Good driver + best suspension setup + best exhaust setup + best tires - rear wing - forced induction does not equal 2 tenth of a sec behind a well setup FI scion racing speed academy car driven by Pete and Dave. When SA dynoed their car it made 263whp 203 torque; 2 tenth of a sec against those kind of numbers is unbelievable. SA Scion Racing also has good suspension setup, good after market exhaust and good aerodynamic add-ons. Although Dave and Pete are not world class drivers but they in my humble opinion good drivers, would no just be ahead by 2 tenth of a sec against an NA frs. Again, are you kidding me?

If you are that good of a driver you shouldn't be driving against non-pro drivers. You should be driving with F1 drivers instead.

But I bet instead you guys did something else with the "stock" NA engine. I bet you modified the engine with Bigger valves, port and polished heads, higher compression pistons, lighter forged rods, lighter crank pulley and flywheels. Also race gas within 1500 km between race tracks.

If everything I say is not true then I apologized in advance. I am just very skeptical that a NA "stock" FA motor will only be 2 tenth of a sec behind a FI non-modified FA20 engine with 263whp / 203 torque. No matter how good of a driver you are, it is just unbelievable for a "stock" NA FA20 equipped frs/brz/gt86 will be just 2 tenth of a second behind another frs that is FI with 263 whp/203 torque.

First of all, all those N/A mods *might* get you to 210whp on pump gas, maybe. Still 50+whp shy of the SA car.

You're forgetting two very critical things in your "analysis".

1) Dave has only driven Calabogie a handful of times, and not in a few years. Andre drives it ALL the time. Look at how the lap times compared at TMP (where Dave has billions of laps, and Andre not so much). Andre also knocked off some really quick times on the DDT, he's no slouch of a driver at all.

2) Dave and Pete were on R1R's, Andre/Norm/Kenny were on RE71R's most of the time. There's an easy 2-3 seconds difference between those tires. If you're comparing notes, that's almost as much difference the SA car gained from the transformation of N/A with no aero to S/C with aero.

Still don't believe anyone, look at the results from the top speed challenge (1/2 mile, running start). The SA car was much quicker through that.

[Slick]

Originally Posted by aaguirre123

Common!? Who are you kidding here? Good driver + best suspension setup + best exhaust setup + best tires - rear wing - forced induction does not equal 2 tenth of a sec behind a well setup FI scion racing speed academy car driven by Pete and Dave. When SA dynoed their car it made 263whp 203 torque; 2 tenth of a sec against those kind of numbers is unbelievable. SA Scion Racing also has good suspension setup, good after market exhaust and good aerodynamic add-ons. Although Dave and Pete are not world class drivers but they in my humble opinion good drivers, would no just be ahead by 2 tenth of a sec against an NA frs. Again, are you kidding me?

If you are that good of a driver you shouldn't be driving against non-pro drivers. You should be driving with F1 drivers instead.

But I bet instead you guys did something else with the "stock" NA engine. I bet you modified the engine with Bigger valves, port and polished heads, higher compression pistons, lighter forged rods, lighter crank pulley and flywheels. Also race gas within 1500 km between race tracks.

If everything I say is not true then I apologized in advance. I am just very skeptical that a NA "stock" FA motor will only be 2 tenth of a sec behind a FI non-modified FA20 engine with 263whp / 203 torque. No matter how good of a driver you are, it is just unbelievable for a "stock" NA FA20 equipped frs/brz/gt86 will be just 2 tenth of a second behind another frs that is FI with 263 whp/203 torque.

LOL, was fun reading this.

The car and engine setup are exactly as stated.
There are no smoke and mirrors here.

Power upgrades:
- drop-in K&N air filter
- OpenFlash Header
- OpenFlash tablet running Stage 2 - 93 Octane tune (couldn't run E85 for this event)
- I'm even running a stock catback exhaust.

I'm sure with this setup I am probably putting down somewhere between 190-195 whp, and closer or just over 200 on E85 (which we didn't run for the event).

Yes, we had better tires. Our "good" set was the RE71R in a 245/40R17, other was the Hankook RS3 in a 255/35R18.

But you forgot the most important mod that I listed, "seat time".
This isn't my first rodeo, I have been driving on track for awhile. I am typically 3 secs ahead of other twins at my home track. I have also driven Shannonville, Mosport and Cayuga previously in my Time Attack days.

Would be more than happy to take you out for a rip as a passenger sometime.

[wparsons]

I'd be shocked if you're in the 190whp range on an OTS 93 octane tune, which is just a further testament to seat time and skill.

[Slick]

Oh yeah, Day 4 video recap from Speed Academy
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmOvvuefBqE"]Day 4 - Settling Into Our Groove - Ontario1500 Mini Series - YouTube[/ame]
Btw, anyone know how to embed the videos?

[Lynxis]

Originally Posted by Slick

Oh yeah, Day 4 video recap from Speed Academy

Btw, anyone know how to embed the videos?

Use the full youtube.com link.

https://www.you tube.com/watch?v=bmOvvuefBqE

Remove the space and you're golden.

[Slick]

Originally Posted by Lynxis

Use the full youtube.com link.

https://www.you tube.com/watch?v=bmOvvuefBqE

Remove the space and you're golden.

Cool, yeah I pasted the url up to and including the "&".
Seems to work well that way, went back and fixed all my video links.

Thanks!!

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by Slick

Would be more than happy to take you out for a rip as a passenger sometime.

Just be sure to bring the @AznKirby bag!

[Slick]

Originally Posted by jvincent

Just be sure to bring the @AznKirby bag!

[pushrod]

Originally Posted by aaguirre123

Common!? Who are you kidding here? Good driver + best suspension setup + best exhaust setup + best tires - rear wing - forced induction does not equal 2 tenth of a sec behind a well setup FI scion racing speed academy car driven by Pete and Dave. When SA dynoed their car it made 263whp 203 torque; 2 tenth of a sec against those kind of numbers is unbelievable. SA Scion Racing also has good suspension setup, good after market exhaust and good aerodynamic add-ons. Although Dave and Pete are not world class drivers but they in my humble opinion good drivers, would no just be ahead by 2 tenth of a sec against an NA frs. Again, are you kidding me?

If you are that good of a driver you shouldn't be driving against non-pro drivers. You should be driving with F1 drivers instead.

But I bet instead you guys did something else with the "stock" NA engine. I bet you modified the engine with Bigger valves, port and polished heads, higher compression pistons, lighter forged rods, lighter crank pulley and flywheels. Also race gas within 1500 km between race tracks.

If everything I say is not true then I apologized in advance. I am just very skeptical that a NA "stock" FA motor will only be 2 tenth of a sec behind a FI non-modified FA20 engine with 263whp / 203 torque. No matter how good of a driver you are, it is just unbelievable for a "stock" NA FA20 equipped frs/brz/gt86 will be just 2 tenth of a second behind another frs that is FI with 263 whp/203 torque.

2:55 into the Day 4 video, the voiceover says "The Slick Auto Solutions car was only a few tenths behind us". Believe it.

[AznKirby]

Damn, I was going to post that YouTube comment up on the Ottawa page, but I guess it found its way here! Ahah.

[AznKirby]

Originally Posted by jvincent

Just be sure to bring the @AznKirby bag!

Originally Posted by Slick

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lol bullies.