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Old 05-15-2014, 09:15 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by Lazy Dolphin View Post

If I get into it and it feels like i'm driving a 240sx, i'm going to be highly disappointed.

I luv the original 86 and I luv driving my frs but I must admit at least from my experience the frs drives very similar to my 240sx (I sold the 240sx prior to buying the frs) so its still fresh in my memory etc etc

probably the only real difference I feel between the 2 cars is my 240sx had a harder time to control drifting and it was very torquey compared to the frs.

however the frs handles so much better in high speed cornering dunno if its cuz better technology and or the weight distribution but my 240sx was modded I mean not insanely modded but enough to out compete it if I went against an all stock 240sx of same year
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Originally Posted by Lazy Dolphin View Post
For all the strengths the AE86 has, it has an equal, if not longer list of weaknesses. However, most of the weaknesses are what give the corolla it's most endearing qualities.

1.) It's slow, but it was quick for it's time. With about less than 100 hp to the wheels, it gets up to 60mph in somewhere in the 7-8 second range. The gearing, while close together, leaves much to be desired with the jump from 2nd to 3rd, and almost no difference between 4th and 5th. Yet despite this, people love the fact that you can take the engine up to 7500 rpm and listen to it scream around town without breaking most speed limits.

2.) Poor rear suspension design. The live axle is archaic technology seems to be ifted from Conestoga wagons. This makes it somewhat frustrating to drive it in high grip conditions, as the rear end just isn't dynamic enough to be driven as precisely as other cars, yet this is what gave the ae86 the ability to be such an oversteer-y, tail happy monster.

3.) Lightness, and weight distribution. 2300 lbs in stock form, with a close to 50/50 weight distribution makes for an extremely balanced and fun car to drive. You don't know what really "tossing a car around" means until you drive one at an autocross and realize just how nimble the car is (even in stock form) with this potent combination.

4.) Overall a unique driving experience... and not so much amenities. The corolla is built to be a driver's car, there's no question about it. This also means that the interior is quite spartan, and the build quality of many of the luxuries just didn't stand the 25 year test of time. Right now many of my hvac controls don't work, ac went out a long time ago, and it's common for people's headlight control boxes to go wonky, and uncracked dashboards go for about $300 dollars nowadays.

However with all the abovementioned put together, the AE86 is truely a "car that teaches you how to drive." The combination of lightweight, underpowered, oversteer happy characteristics require a learning curve which is both easy to get into, but difficult to master. Drifting them also requires at least 3 to 4 times as much dedication as a 240sx due to the high powerband, low power, and small wheelbase.

Do I want the FT86 to improve on some of these qualities? YES INDEED I do. A better transmission, more power, and a 6th gear is what I really hope they infuse into this car, while still maintaining the unique driver's experience that the corolla is known for.

If I get into it and it feels like i'm driving a 240sx, i'm going to be highly disappointed.
Huh. Aside from the resurrection, it looks to me as if they nailed all of the things he wanted. The FR-S is a great car.
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My brother has an ae86 that spends most of its time in the garage. Now he has a family etc it doesn't get out much, and his son is 16 in a couple of yrs so it may become a permanent garage fixture for awhile at least.

Anyways, he got to drive my BRZ a couple of weeks ago for the first time. He was very pleased with it. He knows I am considering selling my 2nd car and his recommendation... Get rid of the other car and drive the BRZ as much as possible..
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i dont know why this thread keeps coming back but the ae86 has gotta be one of the most overrated cars ever. it had its quirks and it was kind of fun but it was probably the worst "sports" car ive ever owned
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