Coming from a mk6 Golf TDI. what to expect? - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

husker741 · 04-09-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI

Ill likely leave the FR-S very stock for the most part in fear of ruining it driving comfort for looks and handling like I have with my TDI.

Famous last words. The glory of this car is that if you correctly choose your mods, it makes the car that much better.

BlueDubbinTDI · 04-09-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by husker741

Uhhhhh, nope. Sorry, but VWs are ugly as poop. And I wouldn't say any German car's designs are timeless. Lets see, AE86, any Supra (especially MKIV), 2000GT, SC300/400, IS300, ISF, and now FR-S to name a few. Those are timeless designs. And not German.

To the OP, if you want to stay engaged, do what the fiancé wants. If you want more fun, just test drive one. You won't want to stay in your Golf any longer, no matter the MPG's.

This is all a matter of opinion. VW finds its balance with build quality and aim at all age groups at an affordable price. Introductory class Japanese cars tend to have crap interiors but tend to have far better reliability, mpg, and longevity with it owners. The Golf is actually a very iconic Euro ride, probably even ahead of the 3 series, as the GTI model is known worldwide as being an excellent DD for all age groups and lifestyles. Its been that way for like 30 years now. Noone knows how the FR-S will fair in 10 years. The Golf/GTI will live forever though.

DarkSunrise · 04-09-2013, 02:20 PM

I currently have a mk6 GTI and FR-S.

Very different cars, but great in their own ways. The GTI is the better commuter/long-distance car, and I would guess your TDI would be as well. More space, usable rear seats, nicer interior, and softer ride.

The FR-S is the better sports car. Better handling, oversteer on-demand, more fun on twisty roads, more fun to autocross, better steering, lower, etc. Speed-wise, the FR-S is about as fast as a stock GTI (manual v. manual), meaning not that fast, but should be faster than your current TDI.

Both cars had some quality issues, but nothing crazy. On the FR-S, my ECU needed to be re-flashed and I'm starting to hear some HPFP chirps (there's a TSB out on that, just haven't gotten it done). In comparison, my GTI had a leaky rear windshield spray and some awful creaking from the rubber door seals.

Mandy · 04-09-2013, 02:26 PM

You should expect lots of that. Because women don't love the hot hatches.

kbye · 04-09-2013, 02:32 PM

I will agree with you that VWs age gracefully, their interiors are very nice and their styling is conservative, which is partly the reason why they look decent with age

The thing that bugs me about the FR-S is the lame cf-style dash. That will not look cool 10 years from now.

BlueDubbinTDI · 04-09-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

I currently have a mk6 GTI and FR-S.

Very different cars, but great in their own ways. The GTI is the better commuter/long-distance car, and I would guess your TDI would be as well. More space, usable rear seats, nicer interior, and softer ride.

The FR-S is the better sports car. Better handling, oversteer on-demand, more fun on twisty roads, more fun to autocross, better steering, lower, etc. Speed-wise, the FR-S is about as fast as a stock GTI (manual v. manual), meaning not that fast, but should be faster than your current TDI.

Both cars had some quality issues, but nothing crazy. On the FR-S, my ECU needed to be re-flashed and I'm starting to hear some HPFP chirps (there's a TSB out on that, just haven't gotten it done). In comparison, my GTI had a leaky rear windshield spray and some awful creaking from the rubber door seals.

Holy lowness! i love it lol! Thanks for that comparison of the 2 now I got a better picture!
@Mandy
Im engaged buddy but thanks for that nice post lol

frslee · 04-09-2013, 02:40 PM

Although I didn't drive Golf TDI/GTI, I'm coming from Audi A4 Quattro 2.0T. I know it's not the same comparison, but from same VAG. I don't regret getting FR-S 3 weeks ago.

Because VAG has higher quality, style and comfort, the repair and maintenance cost was very high. I had the car until 138,000 miles and it finally showed the major problem that I decided to trade the car. That torque converter...

Anyways, hope you find a good deal on what you're looking for. There isn't much electrical problems on modern VAG cars. It's just rumors. The only electrical problem I had was replacing 1 or 2 blown fuses... Just lots of wearing and aftermarket parts were so damn expensive.

All in all, loving this FR-S every time I push that clutch and shift knob.

Previous Audi pics just for fun.

norsamerican · 04-09-2013, 02:46 PM

If you get a BRZ youll notice slight understeer before crossing the threshold where the rear end kicks out. From what ive noticed the FRS doesn't have this slight understeer before the end slides out.

BlueDubbinTDI · 04-09-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by frslee

Although I didn't drive Golf TDI/GTI, I'm coming from Audi A4 Quattro 2.0T. I know it's not the same comparison, but from same VAG. I don't regret getting FR-S 3 weeks ago.

Because VAG has higher quality, style and comfort, the repair and maintenance cost was very high. I had the car until 138,000 miles and it finally showed the major problem that I decided to trade the car. That torque converter...

Anyways, hope you find a good deal on what you're looking for. There isn't much electrical problems on modern VAG cars. It's just rumors. The only electrical problem I had was replacing 1 or 2 blown fuses... Just lots of wearing and aftermarket parts were so damn expensive.

All in all, loving this FR-S every time I push that clutch and shift knob.

Previous Audi pics just for fun.

this thing looks excellent! beautiful stance. if any of you have suspension or aftermarket wheels on your FR-Ss post em up

Flow · 04-09-2013, 04:37 PM

In this thread just to misread all the sentences with "vag" in them.

GT 86 Brah · 04-09-2013, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI

I too am afraid of the out of warranty stuff but my fiance drives like a maniac (90mph on the highway is a regular) and likes the 35mpg she still ends up with at the end. So that's why she's adamant we keep the diesel in the family.

that wont be good.. sports car + tons of tickets AT 90 mph wont be pretty at all.

BlueDubbinTDI · 04-09-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GT 86 Brah

that wont be good.. sports car + tons of tickets AT 90 mph wont be pretty at all.

I wouldn't call the TDI a sports car..she does like she torque though lol

Brzetto · 04-09-2013, 10:03 PM

If you're new to RWD cars it will take some getting used to. I've driven Trans Ams, Mustangs and other RWD cars without any problem. The thing to remember is don't do stuff like this Corvette did in this video, he's a perfect example of what not to do.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLf-VqQdQ3I"]Corvette Driver Can't Drive & Hits Tree - Full Version - YouTube[/ame]

GT 86 Brah · 04-09-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDubbinTDI

I wouldn't call the TDI a sports car..she does like she torque though lol

i meant if you trade it in for an fr-s and she gets tickets

04-09-2013, 02:20 PM	#31
DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,792 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 4,238 Times in 2,218 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I currently have a mk6 GTI and FR-S. Very different cars, but great in their own ways. The GTI is the better commuter/long-distance car, and I would guess your TDI would be as well. More space, usable rear seats, nicer interior, and softer ride. The FR-S is the better sports car. Better handling, oversteer on-demand, more fun on twisty roads, more fun to autocross, better steering, lower, etc. Speed-wise, the FR-S is about as fast as a stock GTI (manual v. manual), meaning not that fast, but should be faster than your current TDI. Both cars had some quality issues, but nothing crazy. On the FR-S, my ECU needed to be re-flashed and I'm starting to hear some HPFP chirps (there's a TSB out on that, just haven't gotten it done). In comparison, my GTI had a leaky rear windshield spray and some awful creaking from the rubber door seals. __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

04-09-2013, 02:46 PM	#36
norsamerican Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: Houston Posts: 539 Thanks: 101 Thanked 233 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you get a BRZ youll notice slight understeer before crossing the threshold where the rear end kicks out. From what ive noticed the FRS doesn't have this slight understeer before the end slides out. __________________ Avant-Garde Wheels

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04-09-2013, 02:26 PM	#32
Mandy I came from a motorbike Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: Firestorm 2013 FR-S 6MT Location: FL, US Posts: 447 Thanks: 243 Thanked 390 Times in 124 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You should expect lots of that. Because women don't love the hot hatches.

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kbye Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2014 FR-S Location: Calgary Posts: 460 Thanks: 64 Thanked 441 Times in 140 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I will agree with you that VWs age gracefully, their interiors are very nice and their styling is conservative, which is partly the reason why they look decent with age The thing that bugs me about the FR-S is the lame cf-style dash. That will not look cool 10 years from now.

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frslee Just drive it Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 13' FR-S Location: Maryland Posts: 1,122 Thanks: 97 Thanked 321 Times in 218 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Although I didn't drive Golf TDI/GTI, I'm coming from Audi A4 Quattro 2.0T. I know it's not the same comparison, but from same VAG. I don't regret getting FR-S 3 weeks ago. Because VAG has higher quality, style and comfort, the repair and maintenance cost was very high. I had the car until 138,000 miles and it finally showed the major problem that I decided to trade the car. That torque converter... Anyways, hope you find a good deal on what you're looking for. There isn't much electrical problems on modern VAG cars. It's just rumors. The only electrical problem I had was replacing 1 or 2 blown fuses... Just lots of wearing and aftermarket parts were so damn expensive. All in all, loving this FR-S every time I push that clutch and shift knob. Previous Audi pics just for fun.

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Flow Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: DGMBRZ Location: Pacific-ah Posts: 276 Thanks: 139 Thanked 104 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In this thread just to misread all the sentences with "vag" in them.

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Brzetto Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 4 wheels Location: Earth Posts: 1,024 Thanks: 117 Thanked 332 Times in 205 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you're new to RWD cars it will take some getting used to. I've driven Trans Ams, Mustangs and other RWD cars without any problem. The thing to remember is don't do stuff like this Corvette did in this video, he's a perfect example of what not to do. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLf-VqQdQ3I"]Corvette Driver Can't Drive & Hits Tree - Full Version - YouTube[/ame]

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