You just wait...

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

...............You of all people should understand that since you saw the stone tool makers lose their jobs to bronze!

What the fuck is this all about, you and the big guy @Ultramaroon down south of here, ah PICKEN ON ME! -

Just for that I'm ah gonna fix me a large bowl of red raspberries, piled high with butter pecan ice cream and drizzled with chocolate syrup and topped off with a couple of heaping tablespoons full of malted milk.

That will make it alllllllllll better -

[86MLR]

The Toyota plant in Australia closed wven aftwr huge amounts of government subsidies and grants.

In other, older, not really on topic news....

[Pouncer]

Originally Posted by 86MLR

In other, older, not really on topic news....

FWIW, the photo you posted of "Hiroshima" is actually Yokohama. And this is what a comparable photo of Detroit actually looks like:

[Impureclient]

All things look good from far away....

[wbradley]

Thread's really long!

Can't put a price on human life.

It always boils down to that Bob Dylan quote, "You better start swimming or you'll sink like a stone. The times, they are a changin' ".

Politics is supposed to be off topic.

I'd feel kinda embarassed if Canadians were all over the news storming the steps of the provincial government, ignoring distancing, toting large assault firearms and camo., and chanting "Lock her up".

These people are just too thick to comprehend things. They have no compassion and cannot grasp the unprecedented changes. Govt isn't in a position to deal with demonstrations or worse like this RIGHT NOW!



I don't like using the word fucktard.

[bcj]

The snot zombies really *are* coming for our brainz.

[Impureclient]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Politics is supposed to be off topic.

I'd feel embarassed if my people....

Your people:


feel embarrassed

[Atmo]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I know it appears that I am preaching doomsday. I am not. I am just attempting to express that things are no longer going to be what they were.

Like the virus models of best/worst/probable outcomes, the economic models are in no man's land too. So your doomsday scenario may be sugar coating things, be overly negative, or realistic. We won't know for sure for months or longer but unfortunately none of the three possible outcomes are rosy except possibly for central bankers.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

He works at a hospital so has no idea what the real world is going through.

I'll have to disagree with this somewhat given I just furloughed for up to 4 months a good percentage (10 to 60% depending on the work group) of the IT staff in my department yesterday because of the situation in our medical center.

Our revenue is down by 50% and the 50% we kept has no operating margin because it is all lower reimbursement work that is partially funded by the 50% we lost.

Hopefully all will be able to come back when we enter Phase I recovery which includes elective procedures, etc.

My VP and I both volunteered to take a furlough if it meant others lower could stay but it was rejected because they still need folks to run the place. So, I'll be pitching in with day-to-day support where i can.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

I'll have to disagree with this somewhat given I just furloughed for up to 4 months a good percentage (10 to 60% depending on the work group) of the IT staff in my department yesterday because of the situation in our medical center.

Our revenue is down by 50% and the 50% we kept has no operating margin because it is all lower reimbursement work that is partially funded by the 50% we lost.

Hopefully all will be able to come back when we enter Phase I recovery which includes elective procedures, etc.

My VP and I both volunteered to take a furlough if it meant others lower could stay but it was rejected because they still need folks to run the place. So, I'll be pitching in with day-to-day support where i can.

We have 4 major hospitals and a 500 bed back up site set up. So far the region has had 282 confirmed cases with 18 people having been hospitalized. Of the 282, 156 have been in nursing homes where they are treated on site. The hospitals have shut down all other departments. There are loads of doctors and nurses on stand bye and many layoffs for the rest of the staff.

I should have been more clear. He works in the ER of a California hospital. As he has said himself he is grossly misconducted from what is happening to the average person.

[Irace86.2.0]

FDR, the New Deal, a 90% top marginal tax rate, etc came from such times. Maybe we can get medicare-for-all and other programs from this. It might be a good idea if millions have lost, or are going to lose, their insurance when unemployed.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Atmo

Like the virus models of best/worst/probable outcomes, the economic models are in no man's land too. So your doomsday scenario may be sugar coating things, be overly negative, or realistic. We won't know for sure for months or longer but unfortunately none of the three possible outcomes are rosy except possibly for central bankers.

I am only addressing the auto industry. I have no clue how the rest of the economy is dealing with things.

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Impureclient

Your people:


feel embarrassed

Joke if you want, I'd kinda feel ashamed, not on a comedic level, having those people with the guns and camo out in protest ignoring social distancing and demanding everyone do the same. Even if their guns aren't used to kill, their actions are. Deniers? Idiots? . Just my opinion. And aside from the controversial black face picture, I see Trudeau wearing what appears to be Indian cultural clothing. If that's embarrassing, you are a racist!!!

Just calling it out as I see it. My comment really wasn't intended to be funny either. And I do have a pretty long history of appropriate humour here. See how we spell humor??

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

FDR, the New Deal, a 90% top marginal tax rate, etc came from such times. Maybe we can get medicare-for-all and other programs from this. It might be a good idea if millions have lost, or are going to lose, their insurance when unemployed.

And honestly, the Great Depression is the only thing they can gauge this against. Back then stock markets collapsed first (sort of like now), then investment capital was scarce (we'll see what happens now), crops failed due to droughts (hope not), and things stagnated for around a decade in Canada (a couple years less in the US) until the declaration of war when massive government spending to fight Hitler and the Emperor got everyone working and sent the unemployed to battle.

Some huge differences this time. How currencies re-calibrate and who remains or becomes or is no longer wealthy in the years to come is anyone's guess.

During the depression in Canada mostly limited numbers of European immigrants arrived and added to the labour force here during the depression when jobs were supposedly scarce. More realistically skilled and semi-skilled labour was probably in demand. My Dad's Dad arrived in 1928 from eastern Europe, as a tailor and worked for a few years before his wife and 2 children could arrive.

The 90% marginal tax rate or similar might be called up again simply to enable democracy to make the huge decisions rather than a very small group of individuals running foundations.

Very different times. Unfortunately I don't qualify for any assistance my government is offering and have been pretty much retired the past 2 years in terms of income. Daughter away in uni and son turning 13 this fall.

I'll be looking to make money in earnest when this blows over.

If people know others in need, they should always lend a (disinfected) hand. Especially older people and those otherwise isolated or couped up on their own. I text a couple of buddies and one sibling regularly, call my old father who is confused but ok so far (92 years old), eat too many Pop Tarts. I also pass time playing with my vinyl records (around 1000 good ones so far).

My sister in Scottdsale, bought a newly renovated house furnished, sold her house and almost all the furniture in 2 days and for $20K over asking plus contents. She moved in today and this all in the course of three weeks. How she hired a mover for the boxes I'll never know.