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what can i say? i am a sucker for good suspension porn. haha in all seriousness, i would like to hear your opinions about mixing and matching springs on konis or the up and coming rce bilsteins. the reason being is that i would like to see the front a little lower than the back without going the coilover route. i.e. rce gray springs in the front (tarmac? correct me if i am wrong) and rce yellows in the back (maybe a custom spring rate on that to retain balance and match the front spring rate the rce grays have). budget wise, i do not know how much more or less it would cost (so please, put away your pitchforks and torches, it is a legit question) but i have yet to see somebody do custom spring swaps like a bunch of my friends that have ae86s that do a lot of auto-x/trackdays. they do mix and matches with springs on fixed after-market dampers and as far as i can see, they are pretty effective on that platform. competitive and effective, yet it achieves the look that i am aiming for. this thread is like brazzers.com in full hd for suspension nuts. thanks again! |
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1) Im not sure I follow the "naturally drop" part. most 235/40/17's are only 0.2-0.5 inches smaller in diameter than the stock 215/45/17 2) does lowering the vehicle beyond 1 inch not alter the geometry with springs? I was under the impression ~0.5 inches lower was where the suspension was designed to operate. source:http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=11
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I'm lowered 1.5" with ST coilovers (same as KW V1) and I'm looking at getting some aftermarket rear lower control arms.
Some, like the Stance ones, are shaped so they in effect raise the hub, and in reading about them, they say this is good for coilovers like the KW's which adjust height by spring preload. So, I'm gathering the Stance LCA's offer more droop? Are they a good match for my ST coilovers? |
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Any lowering alters geometry. The question is, how far are you willing to compromise it? IMO, it was designed to operate at stock height. Any drop is a compromise unless you correct/compensate for the drop. |
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It's detrimental in that it becomes easier to bottom out and damage the shock. As long as the drop isn't too severe, you should be okay as long as you're careful. You're also slightly out of the optimal range of the shocks, but again, its a small compromise for the drop, especially when you're trying to do it for cheal. |
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So what's the Max lowering ride height for tarmac 2 without effecting the original handling? or best ride height for tarmac 2 ?I want to lowered the car about 2"from stock height, is there anything I need to replace? thx
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Oh and w about -2to -3 camber front and -1.5 to -2 at the rear
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I am sure this will benefit everyone But list your Ideal Track Setup along with alignment specs using the following supplies. Then List your Ideal AutoX Setup if it differs.
Coil Overs: RCE 0 or Tarmac 2's (Along with KW V3 and Club Sport Equivalents) LCAs: Choose your Flavor Other Suspension Components to adjust geometry: Alignment : Free Range List specs
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Coilovers: CSG-Spec Tein SRC LCAs: none Other suspension components: none Alignment: Front -3 camber 0 toe Rear -2.4 camber (natural from ride height drop of -1.4") 0 toe |
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How high the frequency is would be selected based on tires, track quality and downforce. The soft spring/hard bar was an older road racing approach, probably having to do with putting power down through shitty tires and on crappier surfaces. But that also sounds like a modern street use scenario.
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What about these guys?
The digressive valving looks pretty decent with really broad range of adjustment, though not quite sure how digressive rebound damping is beneficial to performance. I'm used to seeing just digressive comp damping in some premium grade dampers (penske ohlins). I think AST are going double digress ive with their new 4150 line as well. Fortune seems to offer different valving to match whatever spring rate you order. This is much better than a lot of other brands who only offer the same damping curves for different spring rates. Seems like the components they use to build their dampers are really good quality as well. What do you guys think? |
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What about the front? |
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