I'm getting a supercharger! Will my car be ready?

[Byrd]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I believe I'm the most qualified individual here to answer this.

- Dump the crank pulley. It's not needed.

- Do either the coilovers or the supercharger, but not both at the same time. One change at a time to learn the change

- Get the Flex Fuel kit from the get go, so you don't need to tune twice.

- Don't bother with a "staged" brake package. They're glorified street setups that do little to nothing to help you on track. Instead, get yourself a set of real track pads and good fluid. Unless you care only about your mod list, those packages are a waste of money.

- Catch cans are a must for a track/canyon car with FI.

- Sway bars are fine tuning tools. Hold off on these until you've got suspension on your car, and have identified what exactly you want to change about the behavior of the car.

- Oil cooler is 100% mandatory for any car driven hard.


We can package everything together for you if you're interested. I don't believe anyone on this board has our amount of experience combining a track/suspension/fi setup for mixed street/track/spirited duty.

Yea I was hoping you'd answer my thread lol. I honestly decided to forget about this and just call and ask you these questions when Im ready to purchase. However, since I posted i've scratched off the sway bar and brake package (taking the advice of pads & fluid)

I'm also 90% going with the JRSC. If I do i'll definitely get the Jackson engine oil cooler & a catch can + check valve; heres the list I'm not 100% on yet. (Reminder that its a automatic transmission)

-Trans cooler (b&m 70268)

-Mishimoto thermostat

-Different trans fluid

-Larger injector for flex fuel.

Realistically, I may never hit the track and this could be all spirited driving in the mountains & casual autocross for the next 2-3 years. I've researched alot about tracking and Im not sure if im bout dat life yet it is my end goal though

[2016 Camaro SS]

Originally Posted by Byrd

Yea I was hoping you'd answer my thread lol. I honestly decided to forget about this and just call and ask you these questions when Im ready to purchase. However, since I posted i've scratched off the sway bar and brake package (taking the advice of pads & fluid)

I'm also 90% going with the JRSC. If I do i'll definitely get the Jackson engine oil cooler & a catch can + check valve; heres the list I'm not 100% on yet. (Reminder that its a automatic transmission)

-Trans cooler (b&m 70268)

-Mishimoto thermostat

-Different trans fluid

-Larger injector for flex fuel.

Realistically, I may never hit the track and this could be all spirited driving in the mountains & casual autocross for the next 2-3 years. I've researched alot about tracking and Im not sure if im bout dat life yet it is my end goal though

I wouldn't bother with the thermostat. Especially if you enjoy your heater in the winter. I made that mistake with a 160 degree one in my 97' Formula Firebird going to college, lol. Had no heater when it was 15 degrees outside. Not fun. 180 degree one may not be too bad, but the biggest issue I've seen with this engine is keeping the oil cool.

[Byrd]

Originally Posted by 2016 Camaro SS

I wouldn't bother with the thermostat. Especially if you enjoy your heater in the winter. I made that mistake with a 160 degree one in my 97' Formula Firebird going to college, lol. Had no heater when it was 15 degrees outside. Not fun. 180 degree one may not be too bad, but the biggest issue I've seen with this engine is keeping the oil cool.

Wow I didn't know itd do that.. I definitely like my heater and ass warmer lol

[bfrank1972]

Originally Posted by Byrd

Yea I was hoping you'd answer my thread lol. I honestly decided to forget about this and just call and ask you these questions when Im ready to purchase. However, since I posted i've scratched off the sway bar and brake package (taking the advice of pads & fluid)

I'm also 90% going with the JRSC. If I do i'll definitely get the Jackson engine oil cooler & a catch can + check valve; heres the list I'm not 100% on yet. (Reminder that its a automatic transmission)

-Trans cooler (b&m 70268)

-Mishimoto thermostat

-Different trans fluid

-Larger injector for flex fuel.

Realistically, I may never hit the track and this could be all spirited driving in the mountains & casual autocross for the next 2-3 years. I've researched alot about tracking and Im not sure if im bout dat life yet it is my end goal though

Mike had some good advice there. Regarding autocross, a supercharger probably won't buy you much, especially a centifugal unit. If I were you and I had money burning a hole in my pocket, I'd put it in decent quality coilovers/setup/alignment first (KW V3, Ohlins, RS-R, etc. around $2000+/-). Second I'd get a tune and run E85 (if available). Once dialed in, have some fun with it, then get the supercharger a year from now - there are some really nice positive displacement supercharger systems that have come out/will come out over the next year that you might like better for a street system.

Just my 2 cents, but I'm an old conservative dude too

[Byrd]

Originally Posted by bfrank1972

Mike had some good advice there. Regarding autocross, a supercharger probably won't buy you much, especially a centifugal unit. If I were you and I had money burning a hole in my pocket, I'd put it in decent quality coilovers/setup/alignment first (KW V3, Ohlins, RS-R, etc. around $2000+/-). Second I'd get a tune and run E85 (if available). Once dialed in, have some fun with it, then get the supercharger a year from now - there are some really nice positive displacement supercharger systems that have come out/will come out over the next year that you might like better for a street system.

Just my 2 cents, but I'm an old conservative dude too

That is exactly my plan. My concerns are only about cooling the supercharger and wasted money for getting it dyno tuned twice instead of once (twice if I go with the e85 before SC)

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by raven1231

GET A 6 SPD! oh...wait never mind I guess I'm in the wrong thread.

He already has a 6 speed...

Jaden

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Stock class, but not 100% stock

coming in 3 seconds under Randy Pobst's time with just a driver mod would be a hell of a driver...

Hell, it's a hell of a driver even in a lightly modified twin...

Jaden

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Byrd

Yea I was hoping you'd answer my thread lol. I honestly decided to forget about this and just call and ask you these questions when Im ready to purchase. However, since I posted i've scratched off the sway bar and brake package (taking the advice of pads & fluid)

I'm also 90% going with the JRSC. If I do i'll definitely get the Jackson engine oil cooler & a catch can + check valve; heres the list I'm not 100% on yet. (Reminder that its a automatic transmission)

-Trans cooler (b&m 70268)

-Mishimoto thermostat

-Different trans fluid

-Larger injector for flex fuel.

Realistically, I may never hit the track and this could be all spirited driving in the mountains & casual autocross for the next 2-3 years. I've researched alot about tracking and Im not sure if im bout dat life yet it is my end goal though

I'm not familiar with that trans cooler, but the Stark Performance one seems to do well.

You don't need a thermostat

I'm not familiar with aftermarket AT fluid results.

Injectors are definitely a good idea. You may want to consider a fuel pump as well.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Jaden

coming in 3 seconds under Randy Pobst's time with just a driver mod would be a hell of a driver...

Hell, it's a hell of a driver even in a lightly modified twin...

Jaden

You should come out to 86CUP... there's quite a bit of talent present.

[Byrd]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I'm not familiar with that trans cooler, but the Stark Performance one seems to do well.

You don't need a thermostat

I'm not familiar with aftermarket AT fluid results.

Injectors are definitely a good idea. You may want to consider a fuel pump as well.

Thanks man. Might as well get the fuel pump since they aren't pricey. Have you sold the jrsc to a auto? Do you know what other mods they had to put in for reliability / longevity?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Byrd

Thanks man. Might as well get the fuel pump since they aren't pricey. Have you sold the jrsc to a auto? Do you know what other mods they had to put in for reliability / longevity?

We've done plenty for the AT.

You don't really need anything else; all of the supporting mods you're getting are for your own additional power desires and spirited/competitive driving.

[azynneo]

I was actually planning on doing the same thing to my car, but would the SC intercooler fit with an oil cooler, and a AT cooler? Is the A/T tranny cooler really a necessity? I called Mike from infamous performance and he stated that it could actually be worse for the transmission if anything.

[Dream20b]

Running something too cold can be bad just like running something to hot. You shouldn't beat on your car until it reaches a safe temperature, especially if its very very cold outside, just like you shouldn't drive a car that is overheating/ed.


Remember that things expand and contract with temperature, think of doors in a house and how the difficulty of closing them varies with the weather.

[Stark Performance]

In regards to transmission cooling, here are a few posts from our blog that you might consider reading. It's a bit wordy, but if you are seriously considering tracking an automatic car (modified or otherwise), it is worth a read in my opinion since it is all original research and development that we did.

http://starkperformanceparts.com/pro...lopment-part-1

http://starkperformanceparts.com/pro...lopment-part-2

http://starkperformanceparts.com/pro...lopment-part-3