BRZ vs Evo X

[iLuveKetchup]

Anyone considering the BRZ over the Evo X?

(thinking out loud a bit here)
I have an Evo X that I am considering trading/selling to get the BRZ. The BRZ will be the street car and I want to autocross competitively in SCCA ST* class. I much prefer RWD over AWD. I also like the BRZ's smaller size (exterior) over the Evo X. I don't care too much about power. My only concern is the room for rear passengers. Anyone else?

[fatoni]

it wont be faster and it will probably be just about as much fun. what about rwd do you much prefer over awd? i feel like people are blowing that out of proportion for no real reason

[iLuveKetchup]

Originally Posted by fatoni

it wont be faster and it will probably be just about as much fun. what about rwd do you much prefer over awd? i feel like people are blowing that out of proportion for no real reason

Hmm.. I guess we all have to drive the BRZ to comment about how fun it is to drive. It certainly has all that I look for in a fun to drive car - small & RWD.

As far as AWD, I like to be able to rotate the car. The Evo is great, a lot better than the STi (as far as keeping understeer under control).. but I much prefer to have a loose oversteer'ing car. Just preference really.

[blu_]

I'm considering this over a new STi or used EVO. I've always enjoyed driving RWD cars over AWD. Even in snow I had more fun getting stuck in my BMW than I did cruising around in my STi. I think this car could be more fun and WILL be a lot cheaper to own, but is obviously comparatively lacking in utility.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by fatoni

it wont be faster and it will probably be just about as much fun. what about rwd do you much prefer over awd? i feel like people are blowing that out of proportion for no real reason

Don't most AWD have the engine hanging out fairly far in front due to the location of the transmission and front diff? Just seems like an inherent design that AWD vehicles (even the Audi S and RS cars) deal with understeer.

[iLuveKetchup]

Originally Posted by blu_

I'm considering this over a new STi or used EVO. I've always enjoyed driving RWD cars over AWD. Even in snow I had more fun getting stuck in my BMW than I did cruising around in my STi. I think this car could be more fun and WILL be a lot cheaper to own, but is obviously comparatively lacking in utility.

New STi, as in the GR? Or the new one that is yet to come out? I'd skip the GR, unless you like blown engines (ringland failure).

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by blu_

I'm considering this over a new STi or used EVO. I've always enjoyed driving RWD cars over AWD. Even in snow I had more fun getting stuck in my BMW than I did cruising around in my STi. I think this car could be more fun and WILL be a lot cheaper to own, but is obviously comparatively lacking in utility.

Did you mean that or did it just come out wrong? Had more fun getting stuck in snow in your BMW than actually driving without issues in your STI?

Btw, Ichi hates STi. It is STI.

[blu_]

Originally Posted by iLuveKetchup

New STi, as in the GR? Or the new one that is yet to come out? I'd skip the GR, unless you like blown engines (ringland failure).

Yeah its a tough choice, my rod bearings went out twice on my 07 with only 40k miles. My ringlands were fine surprisingly.

I've been considering buying a GR since I don't really beat my cars. I think my old car was a pretty big lemon.... I really dislike the interior on the EVO's besides the seats.

[blu_]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Did you mean that or did it just come out wrong? Had more fun getting stuck in snow in your BMW than actually driving without issues in your STI?

Btw, Ichi hates STi. It is STI.

When it came to having fun in the snow, driving around sideways in my old bmw was a blast. You did have to deal with "situations" more often though.

[powertrip]

As a previous Evo owner (VIII) I'd say there's a lot different between the platforms. The one thing I wont miss is the repair bills/clutches. However, there wont be near as much breakneck performance out of this in a stock package, it really is apples to oranges here. The Evo is brutal raw power in an AWD package, its also much more expensive than comparable BRZ (10k+) so keep that in mind as well. More fair to compare an Evo against a Boss 302 Mustang

[blu_]

While objectively it is apples to oranges, people will cross shop things that make no sense to others, but each person has their own preferences and things they find unacceptable.

I absolutely hate Mustangs, because of the driving visibility and weight, but you are right that on paper they make sense to compare against the EVO.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Don't most AWD have the engine hanging out fairly far in front due to the location of the transmission and front diff? Just seems like an inherent design that AWD vehicles (even the Audi S and RS cars) deal with understeer.

i havent driven the evo x hard enough to notice understeer as my friend is a little over protective of it but from what i hear the computer lets the rear end hang out just enough to have fun. understeer is a characteristic that is designed into all cars of today. the weight up front sucks but i dont think its the primary cause for understeer in a car

[blu_]

At least on Audi's and Subaru's its a major part of the why the car wants to push.

[cassidy0998]

I was considering an Evo X before I got interested in the FR-S/BRZ... Since then I've become more interested in the GC and Mustang though. The Evo X is a great ride though, I've still been kicking one around in my head. I keep waiting for them to release some official info about the Evo XI though.