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Tcoat · 01-31-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 22R

Sorry if this was posted but listen to what wise Old Tcoat says guys

22R

Notice the updated part
https://www.motor1.com/news/303112/t...ubaru-brz-axe/

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Originally Posted by Chikna

It's just a rumor and the following link shows BRZ and 86 will not be discontinued.

The Subaru BRZ and Toyota 86 aren’t being discontinued

https://www.thetorquereport.com/news...-discontinued/

Your "Breaking news" is not breaking nor news. You are 24 hours late. It also does not seem to be rumour but who knows with these sites.

Swift · 02-01-2019, 11:23 AM

I think Subaru will pull out. I am sorry but the motor just doesn't have the reliability Toyota needs it to have in my opinion. They got better chassis rigidity and lower CoG with the Supra. My thoughts are an update and new engine going in to keep it in the middle. New MR2 below it?

Plus the BRZ doesn't really fit in with their Eco-dog loving-flannel wearing stereotype of a AWD CUV.

Delfin · 02-01-2019, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Swift

I think Subaru will pull out. I am sorry but the motor just doesn't have the reliability Toyota needs it to have in my opinion. They got better chassis rigidity and lower CoG with the Supra. My thoughts are an update and new engine going in to keep it in the middle. New MR2 below it?

Plus the BRZ doesn't really fit in with their Eco-dog loving-flannel wearing stereotype of a AWD CUV.

Is the boxer engine having reliability issues?

Yoshoobaroo · 02-01-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Swift

I think Subaru will pull out. I am sorry but the motor just doesn't have the reliability Toyota needs it to have in my opinion. They got better chassis rigidity and lower CoG with the Supra. My thoughts are an update and new engine going in to keep it in the middle. New MR2 below it?

Plus the BRZ doesn't really fit in with their Eco-dog loving-flannel wearing stereotype of a AWD CUV.

Where is your data showing the FA20 is unreliable? Forum posts about the few engine failures are a bad way to paint the whole picture when there are well over 100,000 twins out there. Just because you 'feel' it's unreliable doesn't make it so.

The 86 is Toyotas most reliable model right now. The BMW B58 is solid but it's worse.

ermax · 02-01-2019, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swift

I think Subaru will pull out. I am sorry but the motor just doesn't have the reliability Toyota needs it to have in my opinion. They got better chassis rigidity and lower CoG with the Supra. My thoughts are an update and new engine going in to keep it in the middle. New MR2 below it?

Plus the BRZ doesn't really fit in with their Eco-dog loving-flannel wearing stereotype of a AWD CUV.

Toyota and Subaru have already debunked this rumor saying they are moving forward with a gen2. So it looks fairly certain a boxer is still in.

DandoX · 02-01-2019, 12:10 PM

Jalopnik reports 2nd gen is coming

https://jalopnik.com/subaru-says-the...att-1832263089

Tcoat · 02-01-2019, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Swift

I think Subaru will pull out. I am sorry but the motor just doesn't have the reliability Toyota needs it to have in my opinion. They got better chassis rigidity and lower CoG with the Supra. My thoughts are an update and new engine going in to keep it in the middle. New MR2 below it?

Plus the BRZ doesn't really fit in with their Eco-dog loving-flannel wearing stereotype of a AWD CUV.

They aren't but if they ever did it would be per plan not a spur of the moment thing.
It would also be the end of the platform since it would take a total redesign of the car to change the engine. If Toyota could have made it on their own from the beginning they would have so no Subaru then no Twins. Toyota has made it clear that it will continue so that means Subaru is still in the game.
Oh, and according to the flip flopping sites Subaru has already stated they are still in anyway.

LOL "the reliability Toyota needs" from the basically BMW Supra?

There is nothing but clickbait speculation about a new MR2. Unless I have missed an announcement from Toyota there isn't even a current concept for one much less anything else.

DandoX · 02-01-2019, 12:19 PM

Also here is the R&T article saying there is a 2nd gen coming

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ve-more-power/

DandoX · 02-01-2019, 12:25 PM

Rumor debunked Thread is now solved. Kudos to Tcoat for calling it right off the bat. No one comforts me from clickbait better than Tcoat

Tcoat · 02-01-2019, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DandoX

Also here is the R&T article saying there is a 2nd gen coming

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ve-more-power/

Meh. There are about 10 of them now. They all link back to the same ones that claimed to have contacted Toyota an Subaru directly. It is all just lazy journalism where each site is parroting the others with none of them adding new or different facts. Loads of speculation and story telling but no facts. Much the same way the whole thing got started by a one line headline and several sites just built stories around it.

WolfpackS2k · 02-01-2019, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DandoX

Rumor debunked Thread is now solved. Kudos to Tcoat for calling it right off the bat. No one comforts me from clickbait better than Tcoat

Pretty sure everyone in the original thread, on page one, took the "rumor" with a grain of salt.

Tcoat · 02-01-2019, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

Pretty sure everyone in the original thread, on page one, took the "rumor" with a grain of salt.

Hard to tell since this thread is actually 6 threads all merged. That is why the order of events seems so weird. There were far far to many people that believed or at least wanted to believe it.

Dadhawk · 02-01-2019, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

...If Toyota could have made it on their own from the beginning they would have so no Subaru then no Twins.

I don't know...based on the new Supra, Toyota could continue to produce the 86...it just might be a truck instead of a sports car.

Seiryuu · 02-01-2019, 02:25 PM

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/02/01/...rumor-refuted/

We can all breathe easy now, everyone.

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