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Old 11-18-2020, 09:40 AM   #29
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Horsepower 228 HP @ 7,000 RPM
Torque 184 lb.-ft. @ 3,700 RPM
When rumors were initiated about a 2.4 liter, I figured, 225hp min, 240hp max. I think they leaked the 217hp figure to get us super-psyched for 228hp... In my case it's kinda worked
Only +10% more power at the same 7000rpm peak implies a much *broader* powerband. Apparently now redline is 7500, so a smidge more headroom up top as well. Peak torque at 3700rpm, right in the middle of current engine's torque dip range.
It all sounds very very good to me!

Car looks GREAT! Much better than I expected. I hate most things...
They got rid of the moustache! Opens up color options for me
Wait-a-minute, maybe not with the kinda goofy front vents. Candy Apple Grey should be fine tho...
LOVE the low-profile grill area and low nose.

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Curb weight (lbs.) Estimated for U.S. model: 6-speed manual: Premium 2,815 lbs. Limited 2,835
If these weights are accurate, gonna be hard for me to hold out for 2023 2nd-year model...
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Old 11-18-2020, 09:44 AM   #30
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Also, a little surprised this is a Fall 2021 car. I was thinking it would be a May car, similar to the original release.
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In general, I like the tech changes, don't care for the cosmetic changes although it does look better in colors other than silver.

Cosmetically, I do like it better than the Gen 1 Subaru, less than than the Gen 1 Scion/Toyota.

If this had been the only Gen 1 car, I wouldn't have purchased it. I guess we'll see what Toyota does with it for final judgement.



As an aside, I think they've worn out the "it isn't about a straight line" mantra. I agree with it, but bottom line is that it is a little about the straight line.

I particularly liked these two points in the write up


"Running counter to the current trend of power over precision, the 2022 Subaru BRZ focuses on simplicity and fun."

"The overall impression is modern, agile and powerful"



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So look folks we know it still isn't powerful but damnit we gave the impression it is!
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After seeing some videos i admit it starts growing on me.I like it now
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Oooh, just noticed the 13.5:1 compression ratio as well. Good luck to those wanting to go forced induction, but might be good for some decent power gains for NA tuners.
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... Apparently now redline is 7500...
That is the redline as seen on the tach in the official interior images just released, but not what is indicated in the press release:
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The 2.4-liter naturally aspirated engine redlines at 7,000 RPM and delivers a 15-percent increase in torque.
I suspect the text value is the correct one, a 7500 rpm redline seems high for this engine, but I hope to be proven wrong.
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OK, this is hot.



I don't hate it anymore now that I've seen it on video. And maybe now that I've seen it in something other than WRB. haha
Oh wow, I didn't even notice the faux todoroki style fender that blends to the lower body work. That is probably the worst angle I've seen on the car. The bumper is very kia stingerish to me.
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I've mixed feelings about this.

Exterior wise looks kinda inconsistent. The main body is exactly the same, but has a different front fascia (which looks a little busy to me) plus that tacked on looking side vent that was cribbed off a Lexus F car. Rear fascia looks a bit generic. Just doesn't seem to mesh together nicely. I'd like to see what Toyota did, its most likely the big mouth like the renders might make it look better than the smiley face that the subaru has.

Interior looks messy, maybe the Toyota version might look better since the giant tablet smack dab in the middle of the dash might be a Subaru bezel thing. Theres too many conflicting design elements going on. The passenger side of the dash looks straight up out of a 2021 lexus IS, the center stack has been rejigged and seems to just be placed anywhere, the gearshift surround area has that drive focused wrapped look, that doesnt seem to match anything. It looks like that center console that is now covered MAY be curved upward to provide as an armrest? its hard to tell. Some buttons and switchgear are new, but others like the traciton control button doesnt even look like they tried to integrate it..its like they just left a hole there and plunked in the current one in the same current spot. I am not a fan of digital gauges and this one doesnt do it any favours.

Materials look to be better though. The current one has some hard plastics everywhere with the main touch points either leatherette or nuluxe alcantara (and upper dash is the rubbery material). This one seems to have better materials across the board.

Front and rear seats look exactly the same.

That motor? FA24 (well 2.4L, anyone know its engine code?) and D4S makes a return. Maybe it'll feel more like "this is what the first gen should have been?", rather than "This is more powerful!" I always felt that 230 might be an ideal number for this car from the beginning to get the "underpowered" crowd off its back. Hope it gets better fuel economy and maybe can use regular fuel?

Ill have to wait and see to sit in and test drive it.
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That is the redline as seen on the tach in the official interior images just released, but not what is indicated in the press release:

I suspect the text value is the correct one, a 7500 rpm redline seems high for this engine, but I hope to be proven wrong.
Good point, but if those are official pictures (which I'm pretty sure they are), they wouldn't put the redline at 7500 on the tach just to screw with you.
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That is the redline as seen on the tach in the official interior images just released, but not what is indicated in the press release:

I suspect the text value is the correct one, a 7500 rpm redline seems high for this engine, but I hope to be proven wrong.
The current one redlines at 7400rpm does it not?
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Better than I expected

I like it... lots of tweaks from my 2013 that sound nice...

Pending a test drive and seeing Toyota’s version, I am fairly sure I will get a gen2!

Given all the negative rumors I was truly expecting to be disappointed.
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That is the redline as seen on the tach in the official interior images just released, but not what is indicated in the press release:

I suspect the text value is the correct one, a 7500 rpm redline seems high for this engine, but I hope to be proven wrong.
There will be a few discrepancies for a while. Even the 17 facelift had some.
I would always go with the Subaru released text over pictures.
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