follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Delicious Tuning
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum

Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-25-2021, 10:55 PM   #1
popsicle
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Drives: 2013 86 GTS
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 13
Thanks: 5
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
AUS 2013 86 GTS Speedo Inaccurate

hi all,

ive got an 2013 86 gts in aus w the digital speedo.

for a while i have thought the speedo is incorrect, so today i did a test with a gps speed tester.

EDITED (i had them around the wrong way)
when i do 100kmh on the speedo, the GPS shows 96kmh.
when i do 60kmh on the speedo, the GPS shows 56kmh.

seems its about 4kmh out.

the speed needle on the dash matches the digital dash readout speed.

anyone else noticed this with their car?

anyone know how to calibrate the speedo?

thanks, pop.

Last edited by popsicle; 07-28-2021 at 01:12 AM.
popsicle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2021, 11:14 PM   #2
Enigmeerkat
Enigmeerkat
 
Enigmeerkat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Drives: 2015 Toyota 86 GTS
Location: NSW
Posts: 37
Thanks: 16
Thanked 32 Times in 16 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
This is normal. If you look at car specs you'll see there's a figure for "speed when 100kph indicated" or similar. All cars are designed to be slightly slower than indicated, usually about 3%. If you really want to fix it, you can get diferent tires that have a slightly different overall diameter. Also the GPS unit is likely not strictly 100% accurate either, there are tolerances there too.
__________________
-----------------------------
2015 Toyota 86 GTS
- Ecutek w/ Flex Fuel, Xtreme Stage 1 Organic Clutch
- PSR UEL Header, Invidia R400 Catback
- Whiteline Swaybars, 18" ROH Blue Evo R
Enigmeerkat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2021, 12:08 AM   #3
HKz
Reformed
 
HKz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '23 GRC, '11 Prius, '04 RAV4
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 1,312
Thanks: 1,234
Thanked 1,133 Times in 588 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Switch over to mph and difference will be smaller ^^
HKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2021, 12:41 AM   #4
Sasquachulator
Pavement Grey
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2020 Toyota 86 GT, 2017 BMW X1
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,083
Thanks: 109
Thanked 2,222 Times in 1,204 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
aftermarket tires or oem?

Tire size could affect it too.
Sasquachulator is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Sasquachulator For This Useful Post:
x808drifter (07-26-2021)
Old 07-26-2021, 06:06 PM   #5
popsicle
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Drives: 2013 86 GTS
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 13
Thanks: 5
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
thanks for the replies guys.

yes i thought of tyres. would love a hack to remove the intentional incorrect reporting of speed. guess ill just have to "add four" to know my real speed.

thanks, pops
popsicle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2021, 06:32 PM   #6
gen3v8
Barred
 
gen3v8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2020
Drives: My18 wrxsti My19 brzts
Location: Botany Bay
Posts: 1,144
Thanks: 729
Thanked 1,187 Times in 610 Posts
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
It should change proportionally ie, If it reads 100 and your doing 96 at a 50 reading you should be doing 48. It`s just how it works and is normal operation.
__________________
Wait until my Flex capacitor hits 88
gen3v8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2021, 01:01 PM   #7
sneaky_pete
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Drives: MY14 86 GTS Manual Velocity Orange
Location: Australia
Posts: 77
Thanks: 4
Thanked 49 Times in 26 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I'm in Australia and get the same speedo error vs GPS in every car I've driven, our 86, Tucson, Cruze, Aurion, Camry, Commodore, RAV4 the list goes on and on. completely normal and nothing to be concerned about.
sneaky_pete is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2021, 06:07 PM   #8
tarzan_nojane
Senior Member
 
tarzan_nojane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2019
Drives: 2014 FR-S
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 108
Thanks: 32
Thanked 83 Times in 51 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Seems backwards. The manufacturers do not want to be liable for you going over the speed limit. When stock tires are new tires, the speedometer should read 2-3% higher than actual. When I put new 225/45R17 tires on my car, the speedo was then pretty accurate at 60mph
tarzan_nojane is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to tarzan_nojane For This Useful Post:
HKz (07-28-2021)
Old 07-28-2021, 12:00 AM   #9
HKz
Reformed
 
HKz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: '23 GRC, '11 Prius, '04 RAV4
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 1,312
Thanks: 1,234
Thanked 1,133 Times in 588 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by tarzan_nojane View Post
Seems backwards. The manufacturers do not want to be liable for you going over the speed limit. When stock tires are new tires, the speedometer should read 2-3% higher than actual. When I put new 225/45R17 tires on my car, the speedo was then pretty accurate at 60mph
You're right, it should be the other way around. OP has not confirmed wheel/tire size, if he has bigger diameter tires vs stock that would cause his issue of car speedo being lower than gps speedo.
HKz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2021, 01:05 AM   #10
popsicle
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Drives: 2013 86 GTS
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 13
Thanks: 5
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HKz View Post
You're right, it should be the other way around. OP has not confirmed wheel/tire size, if he has bigger diameter tires vs stock that would cause his issue of car speedo being lower than gps speedo.
tyres are pilot spot 4's, 215/45 ZR17, about 6 months old.
popsicle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2021, 01:08 AM   #11
popsicle
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Drives: 2013 86 GTS
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 13
Thanks: 5
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by tarzan_nojane View Post
Seems backwards. The manufacturers do not want to be liable for you going over the speed limit. When stock tires are new tires, the speedometer should read 2-3% higher than actual. When I put new 225/45R17 tires on my car, the speedo was then pretty accurate at 60mph
you're right, i typed it out incorrectly. i have corrected the original post. thx.
popsicle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2021, 01:10 AM   #12
popsicle
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Drives: 2013 86 GTS
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 13
Thanks: 5
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by gen3v8 View Post
It should change proportionally ie, If it reads 100 and your doing 96 at a 50 reading you should be doing 48. It`s just how it works and is normal operation.
thats also what i was expecting, but not what was shown on the gps. i tested on long stretches of 100 and 60 -- and it was 4kmh out both times, weird right.
popsicle is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
GPS inaccurate after new battery BassGhost Electronics | Audio | NAV | Infotainment 4 10-06-2018 04:14 AM
Fuel Gauge is Inaccurate Surakusa Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 13 09-02-2017 10:26 PM
Perrin Boost gauge reading inaccurate? oliverc Forced Induction 0 10-20-2015 11:26 PM
Inaccurate outside temperature display WolfpackS2k Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 62 06-19-2014 10:01 PM
Southeast Toyota FR-S recall for inaccurate load carrying capacity labeling Dadhawk Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 6 04-24-2013 11:19 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.